Nope, I just accept her identification as a minority.
Cos racists wouldn't consider Turks to be white.
tho that's not what you said, which was in direct relation to people of colour.
Even before finding out that they are Turkish?
and as you appear to consider turks not to be white...
Shows how insufficient black and white labels are. People are racist towards Turks all the same.
She doesn't look enough like the racists for them to even consider asking first.
i"m aware of that so only using the internal evidence of your posts.
No, we are wasting out time here. Mostly white men debating whether a brown person is white enough to be considered white. I feel sick we're even discussing it, so no more.
Is that what the discussion is? Are we not allowed to attempt to unpick prejudice and work out what exactly it is that people are prejudiced against?
that may be what you're discussing: i was looking at your apparent conflation of race and nationality.
what a curious turn of phrase
Yep.
As belboid says, it's about ethnicity, not race or nationality.
tbh if I were a diversity officer, I'd be looking for a more nuanced answer than that, looking into how different people are discriminated against, where, in what circumstances, with what motivation, and by whom.
so why bring up the turkish bit if you now feel it irrelevant?
Problem with that is that you end up with Welsh people calling racism over anti-Welsh feeling, and doing so with a straight face by claiming 'Welsh' as an ethnicity.
you mean racism is not simple and straightforward and takes somewhat different forms depending upon various factors? Yes, but so what. It is still racism.
sorry, I am not at all clear what point you are trying to make.
do I? I dont think so.
Not you personally. But it happens. It has happened. I used that example specifically because it has happened.
I don't think it is irrelevant.
