Goldsmiths University Diversity officer facing sack

[Spymaster]

.... (awl and dulwich hamlet fan) whose brother grassed up the cowdenbeath flying column lad...

Is this written in code?

 

[ska invita]

All them downvotes. It's probably doing the rounds in the MRA/Gamergate swamp.

ah of course - thats sad and makes me feel somewhat sorry for everyone involved (and being mocked)
To me student politics is a place to find yourself and cut your teeth a little, in the relatively safe space and small scale of the campus - whatever the rights and wrongs of this this isn't something that should be covered in national newspapers and shared hundreds of thousands of times on the internet.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I don't know why she's put herself in the sentence though. Women in general cannot be sexist towards men, and people from ethnic minorities cannot be racist towards the predominant ethnic group. But, like probably a great many other things, she only seems to be interested in this stuff as it pertains to her personally.

Also, 'not racist' does not necessarily mean 'not an idiot'.

She is very clear in that vid as to why she doesn't feel she can be 'racist or sexist'. 'Because racism and sexism describe structures of priviledge based on race and gender'.

Also, she obviously positioned herself in that sentence as the allegations are against her in particular.

 

[killer b]

That baffled me a bit too. why is she talking about herself, in this defence against an attack on her?

 

[The Flying Pig]

Naive stupid and childish speech so simple that if she and her ilk were not serious, it would be perfect for a comedy sketch.
Yet again a prime example of how the capitalist system fukks up and confuses our brains.

 

[Artaxerxes]

what is the role/responsibilities of a Diversity Officer?

Paid 40 grand to do fuck all.

 

[Treacle Toes]

‘It’s a way of reclaiming the power from the trauma many of us experience as queers, women, people of colour, who are on the receiving end of racism, misogyny and homophobia daily’, she said.

I don't buy this explanation either. The way to reclaim power for me is the opposite...not to internalise and start using the very same perjorative insults. IME working through/out trauma isn't best served by mimicking the very things/structures/insults that oppress in the first place.

 

[Citizen66]

why? i'm not sure what the answer is. if there is an answer. what is a white person? what is a brown person? what is a black person? are you brave enough to state clearly which is which?

Like this diversity officer does you mean?

 

[Orang Utan]

Like this diversity officer does you mean?

 

[Citizen66]

She gets to decide who are white.

 

[Orang Utan]

She gets to decide who are white.

Does she? What are you on about? Be clear

 

[Citizen66]

Does she? What are you on about? Be clear

So the white men she's referring to are hypothetical?

 

[Spymaster]

Does she? What are you on about? Be clear

Bahar Mustafa, the university’s welfare and diversity officer, previously came under fire after banning white people and men from an event that aimed to focus on diversifying the curriculum.

She excluded white people on the basis of their skin colour. Not "people who identify as white".

She is an arsehole.

 

[Orang Utan]

So the white men she's referring to are hypothetical?

What?

 

[Pickman's model]

Like this diversity officer does you mean?

she's foolhardy enough anyway

 

[killer b]

Paid 40 grand to do fuck all.

I'm sure some diversity officers swing the lead (and this one seems to be a penis), but are you really questioning the validity of a role for someone to provide advocacy and representation for minority groups within an institution?

 

[Orang Utan]

She excluded white people on the basis of their skin colour. Not "people who identify as white".

She is an arsehole.

She clearly is.

 

[Pickman's model]

What?

oh ffs why not at least attempt to engage brain

 

[Orang Utan]

oh ffs why not at least attempt to engage brain

I'm just not following C66's questions. There seems to he missing information.

 

[Citizen66]

What?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? You said to pickman's that he couldn't make the judgement call regarding someone's colour of skin in defence of someone doing exactly that.

 

[Spymaster]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? You said to pickman's that he couldn't make the judgement call regarding someone's colour of skin in defence of someone doing exactly that.

Put a comma between skin and in otherwise he'll get even more confused!

 

[Orang Utan]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? You said to pickman's that he couldn't make the judgement call regarding someone's colour of skin in defence of someone doing exactly that.

I wasn't defending her. I was criticising people for saying that someone who didn't identify as white was white.
[Pedant mode]deliberately obtuse is a tautology [/pedant mode]

 

[Diamond]

One of her central arguments seems to be - because I am Turkic, I cannot be racist.

Pretty odd one when set against the Armenian genocide...

And then her wider point is that all ethnic minorities can never be racist, which is even more bizarre.

 

[Citizen66]

I wasn't defending her. I was criticising people for saying that someone who didn't identify as white was white.
[Pedant mode]deliberately obtuse is a tautology [/pedant mode]

Ergo you're criticising her. You weren't earlier.

 

[Orang Utan]

Ergo you're criticising her. You weren't earlier.

So? I wasn't defending her. I didn't think I needed to state that calling for all white men to be killed wasn't a very wise thing to do.

 

[Citizen66]

Read back through your own argument and how it ends up disagreeing with itself.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I'm sure some diversity officers swing the lead (and this one seems to be a penis), but are you really questioning the validity of a role for someone to provide advocacy and representation for minority groups within an institution?

I'm sure there is a role for it, I'm doubtful how often that role is actually useful and not just used to tick another box.

Better engagement with faculty and students would be better and cross cultural events appealing to both minorities and majorities would be good.

 

[Orang Utan]

Read back through your own argument and how it ends up disagreeing with itself.

How so?

 

[Orang Utan]

i don't doubt she's said some unwise things and perhaps should not be working as a diversity officer, but why are people saying she is white herself? it's not up to you

Ahem.

 

[Citizen66]

How so?

have you read it?