TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Yes, I know.
Gammon is not racist
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cantsin
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true, you could find 9 bods like that at TUC conf within one audience camera shot ( and another one here replying to yr post at present) , but isn't there implied , specific socio- political critiique embedded in 'gammon' as well, even if it's as as blunt as ' another angry white, middle aged, right wing bloke ' ?
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
The angry white (middle class? Middle England?) man is definitely a thing but Gammon is too reductive as a term.
Are all these men angry about the same things for the same reasons? Where are the women in this picture? Are non-white men angry about different things for different reasons?
I think Gammon is a comforting term for some younger left-wing people. But not a useful one.
Men in 'ill fitting suits'
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
used in
Nicolas Nickleby, according to Wikipedia
"The meaning of that term—gammon,’ said Mr. Gregsbury, ‘is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory."
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Does that mean it's not racist?
cantsin
Well-Known Member
"It was like having a huge wardrobe fall on top of you. With a very small key. "
(C Weatherall, Mrs Soames #1, reminiscing about the good times )
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
But not one who looks like George Clooney. It has a person's particular looks attached to it. At best, it's on the same level as 'chav', from what I can tell, only having heard of it today.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Policemen trying to fit in
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Ill Fitting Suits would be a good name for a band.
EtA, Oh look...
On Gammon, I for one think it's great to have another insult to use on each other. We defnitely didn't have enough already. Pro Tip .. if anyone ever calls you an insulting name, call them it straight back, obviously. If the insult makes no sense at all when used on them, so much the better
EtA, Oh look...
On Gammon, I for one think it's great to have another insult to use on each other. We defnitely didn't have enough already. Pro Tip .. if anyone ever calls you an insulting name, call them it straight back, obviously. If the insult makes no sense at all when used on them, so much the better
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
That definitely - and with some classist assumptions in the mix as well.
Gammon is basically Phil Mitchell
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
So it's a subset of 'chav', then. An older chav gentleman.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
nah, not even close - Gammon is having a good old moan about political correctness over G + Ts, after a round of golf with fellow middle aged Farage fans, nowt to do with 'chav'
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
dunno really.
i'm not keen on the term 'gammon' and even less so on 'chav' but i'd sort of got the idea of 'gammon' being more the daily mail / express types who vote ukip and who used to think the bnp had a point but were too lower class to vote for...
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
i thought gammons were usually more c1, c2 daily mail/express readers. small business owners, shopkeepers and what not. "aspirational working class/artisan/clerical" - pompous, self important, judgmental, "charity begins at home", envious and definitely tory. the miserable old cunt who wouldn't give you your ball back.
not racist. the skin complexion is from getting all hot under the collar cos "WHY CAN'T WE JUST LEAVE!!??!", bring back the birch and corbyn not being very keen on thermonuclear armageddon.
not racist. the skin complexion is from getting all hot under the collar cos "WHY CAN'T WE JUST LEAVE!!??!", bring back the birch and corbyn not being very keen on thermonuclear armageddon.
People aren’t called it for being white like an Asian might be called “P*ki”. There’s a few more things in play such as age and being male along with espoused views.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
What, like Chrysallis > Butterfly?
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Can't we just go back to calling them cunts?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah but skin colour; not a great place to start from, is it?
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
In the original gammon gallery, quite a lot of the skin colour is self-inflicted rather than inherent.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Old white blokes with a heart condition. Yeah, brought it on themselves.
If they're fat, we should call them fat as well. Fat gammon fuckers.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, fuck 'em...fine...for saying/behaving/voting etc in the way that they do. But...there's far better pejorative terms that one that focuses on their skin colour. I think most on here would instinctively steer away from any other insults that related to that innate characteristic, so why make the exception/set the precedent with this (fairly lame) term. We can do better than that.
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