Fuck the Tory government

[Santino]

If it was to express anger at the election result, it worked, but probably at the expense of the support of a lot of folk who may otherwise have sympathised with the scrawler.

Do you really think so? Have you ever met anyone whose opinion of anti-government protests was genuinely swayed by such a thing?

How insulting it is to someone's intelligence to think that they can't understand that not everyone on a protest supports the actions of everyone on it, or that, in the grand scheme of things, scrawling a naughty swear word is not that significant.

Do you think the protesters can trick people into supporting them by pretending to be nice? Maybe it would be better if they all marched peacefully from one arbitrary spot to another and then listened to a few speeches.

 

[beareis]

Protest!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...owners-10-tax-for-tory-voters-sign-goes-viral

 

[teqniq]

Yea saw that on FB. Fair play to him.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

It's funny what does go away sometimes though.

I mentioned upthread the defacing of the cenotaph in 2002 and the fact that no one was ever prosecuted for that despite a hysterical campaign by the Daily Mirror which included photos of all the perps, a campaign which was pulled abruptly after 2 days.

Several other posters have posted up photos of that event and by implication who did it (PKK etc) when actually the point is that that was the grafitting of Churchill's statue (which could make sense of why a Kurdish group would want to deface it), not the cenotaph.

Anyway I thought I'd check to see what was sprayed on the cenotaph so I've had a good long search for an image of that and it seems to have completely disappeared from the internet.

Funny that.

*puts on tinfoil helmet* - and I'm not taking it off til someone finds a photo...

There is this from 2002:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/734074.stm

 

[co-op]

There was is from 2002:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/734074.stm

Good. The tinfoil was starting to get a bit sweaty. But it's a spectacularly odd bit of grafitti and I still can't find any reference to anyone getting prosecuted for it.

 

[Pickman's model]

The people who put up the memorial know what it was for. I quoted what they said, remember?

Your refusal to condemn the vandalising of a memorial to the women of WW2 speaks volumes.

no, i am not refusing to condemn it i am refusing to be forced.to condemn it.

 

[Santino]

no, i am not refusing to condemn it i am refusing to be forced.to condemn it.

I order you to sing the national anthem, TWICE, to prove your loyalty.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

no, i am not refusing to condemn it i am refusing to be forced.to condemn it.

No one's forcing you, just asking you if you do.

 

[Wilf]

There is this from 2002:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/734074.stm

Interesting that link isn't it, all the huffing and puffing from Blair and Straw, architects of a million or so Iraqi, British and American dead. Blair has also managed to enrich himself by millions as a result of being in public office. And let's not forget Straw taking £12,000 a year from the monsters in Kazakhstan - oh and currently on suspension from the Labour Party - yes, too corrupt even for Labour - for offering to ask, well, anything in Parliament in exchange for cash. Yes, it was stupid to dawb stuff on a monument., but there are some real war criminals out there if you want to get angry/

 

[Wilf]

no, i am not refusing to condemn it i am refusing to be forced.to condemn it.

 

[Pickman's model]

No one's forcing you, just asking you if you do.

i have already expressed my opinion of you sufficiently

 

[Andrew Hertford]

i have already expressed my opinion of you sufficiently

I don't care what your opinion of me is, I was asking you if you'll condemn the defacing of the memorial and it's become clear that you will not.

If you think the act was in some way justified then at least have the courage of your convictions and explain why.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't care what your opinion of me is, I was asking you if you'll condemn the defacing of the memorial and it's become clear that you will not.

If you think the act was in some way justified then at least have the courage of your convictions and explain why.

what i have said, and i repeat it here for the hard of thinking, is that i'm not going to play your little game. now fuck off.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

what i have said, and i repeat it here for the hard of thinking, is that i'm not going to play your little game. now fuck off.

What 'little game'? I asked you if you condemn what happened. If you don't want to answer, fine, but then why do you keep on replying??

 

[Pickman's model]

What 'little game'? I asked you if you condemn what happened. If you don't want to answer, fine, but then why do you keep on replying??

why do you keep answering? i would have thought even one of your stunted intellect would realise that when you're told in no uncertain terms to fuck off further replies would only be considered rude.

now fuck off and don't fucking bother replying. you're nothing but the human (i use the word in its loosest sense) equivalent of a fly-ridden puddle of putrescent vomit. i hope i make myself clear.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

why do you keep answering? i would have thought even one of your stunted intellect would realise that when you're told in no uncertain terms to fuck off further replies would only be considered rude.

now fuck off and don't fucking bother replying. you're nothing but the human (i use the word in its loosest sense) equivalent of a fly-ridden puddle of putrescent vomit. i hope i make myself clear.

But you haven't made yourself clear, that's the whole problem!

 

[Pickman's model]

But you haven't made yourself clear, that's the whole problem!

which part of

now fuck off and don't fucking bother replying

didn't you understand?

 

[Andrew Hertford]

which part of didn't you understand?

Now you're ordering me not to reply to your posts?

I'll keep replying for as long as you keep replying to me without answering the simple question I put to you.

 

[Pickman's model]

Now you're ordering me not to reply to your posts?

I'll keep replying for as long as you keep replying to me without answering the simple question I put to you.

i did answer your fucking question you thick as pigshit pissed-up cunt. you just don't like the fucking answer. now fuck off.

 

[shaman75]

Just found this vid. Missed the actual event, as the crowd started to walk off from Downing Street, with calls to go to Buckingham Palace and I was ahead of it. I remember people suddenly starting to walk back towards Downing Street and then there was a few moments of panic as hundreds started running away again.

It was all pretty peaceful until this point. No smoke grenades, no missiles, just some marching about really with stop offs at Tory HQ, Parliament square, Westminster Bridge and Downing Street (several times). But something happened (at around 4 mins in), because the Police seem to go in hard after a few people and it all kicked off.

 

[Wilf]

That looked like a reasonable turnout.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just found this vid. Missed the actual event, as the crowd started to walk off from Downing Street, with calls to go to Buckingham Palace and I was ahead of it. I remember people suddenly starting to walk back towards Downing Street and then there was a few moments of panic as hundreds started running away again.

It was all pretty peaceful until this point. No smoke grenades, no missiles, just some marching about really with stop offs at Tory HQ, Parliament square, Westminster Bridge and Downing Street (several times). But something happened (at around 4 mins in), because the Police seem to go in hard after a few people and it all kicked off.

the police presumably got orders to go in hard. so something happened before that, as there would be a delay while the order was transmitted to units.

 

[shaman75]

Looks like a group dressed in black trying to escape as the crowd moves off and one of them gets nicked

 

[Spymaster]

At 6.13 does someone, possibly the guy who's filming, shout "you fucking black bastard"?

There's a black copper in the line.

 

[shaman75]

At 6.13 does someone, possibly the guy who's filming, shout "you fucking black bastard"?

There's a black copper in the line.

Does sound like that.

 

[Wilf]

At 6.13 does someone, possibly the guy who's filming, shout "you fucking black bastard"?

There's a black copper in the line.

Almost certainly the bloke filming, the camera shakes with the chanting (unless it's somebody stood next to them - just possible it's somebody pressed against them). Whoever it is, a stupid racist fuck.

Edit: exactly the same voice throughout the video, you can hear it's definitely the filmmaker as he talks to a couple of people 19.35 onwards. Twat.

 

[krink]

The bit about 4 minutes looks like a cop goes into the demo and snatches someone and then loads of protestors and cops pile in.

 

[Spymaster]

Almost certainly the bloke filming, the camera shakes with the chanting (unless it's somebody stood next to them - just possible it's somebody pressed against them). Whoever it is, a stupid racist fuck.

Edit: exactly the same voice throughout the video, you can hear it's definitely the filmmaker as he talks to a couple of people 19.35 onwards. Twat.

And where are all the coppers when someone really needs a kicking?

 

[Nice one]

there's other, better, footage of the incident flying about. Coppers had been trailing some black bloc kiddies, and a couple of coppers went into the crowd to try and pull them out, fail and every other copper piles into the crowd.

In terms of the guy shouting black bastard, did he have an irish accent (haven't got sound on my computer). In certain areas, especially northern ireland it's regarded as general term of abuse against the police and not supposed to be a racial insult or racially directed.

 

[Nice one]

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