Fuck the Tory government

[Pickman's model]

Aren't they the same?

not entirely

 

[Andrew Hertford]

Just a thought on that monument thing . Some years back at an anarchist demo in Dublin a few twat kids put anarchist slogans on the James Connolly statue . Place went ballistic . Day or 2 later a group of anarchists went down and cleaned it off . They also put the valid enough point if those people who wre going crackers cared about the statue so much why didn't they clean it instead of leaving it to others . Too late I'm sure to do anything about it now , but might be worth bearing in mind for the future if it happens again . A good photo op and publicity that would shut some people up . Prevent distractions .

Yep, a good lesson. Acknowledging stupid and offensive acts isn't that difficult and it goes a long way in removing the danger of alienating people. Common sense really.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

on the grounds they're not harsh enough no doubt

You are easily the most arrogant knobhead I’ve ever come across on any forum, the fact that you’re a product of the English public school system stands out a mile. You’ve already made it clear you won’t talk about the women’s memorial or the racist abuse, so why are you still stalking me? Why don’t you go spend some time on a forum where you can debate with a few actual tories for once instead of spending half the day on here calling socialists “pious cunts”?

 

[treelover]

P/M's a public schoolboy? well my my, that explains a lot.

 

[Pickman's model]

You are easily the most arrogant knobhead I’ve ever come across on any forum, the fact that you’re a product of the English public school system stands out a mile. You’ve already made it clear you won’t talk about the women’s memorial or the racist abuse, so why are you still stalking me? Why don’t you go spend some time on a forum where you can debate with a few actual tories for once instead of spending half the day on here calling socialists “pious cunts”?

i'm not calling socialists pious cunts, i'm calling you a pious cunt. and a liar.

 

[Pickman's model]

Andrew Hertford you say "let's leave it", the next thing you're carrying it on only behind my back. you're the architect of this exchange carrying on through your decision to introduce demands for me to condemn the graffiti on the monument and a shout you claim is racist. yet you insist, against the evidence, despite my asking you forcefully to cease your demands for condemnation and stop several pages back, you insist i'm stalking you you're no socialist, not even of the national sort, you're a sad arse who refuses to condemn the tories (see Santino's posts passim) while making claims about other posters for which you have no evidence beyond claims of arrogance. now would be a good time for you to leave the thread.

 

[shaman75]

Nice video here:

 

[ViolentPanda]

Fucking Ayda, geezer. You're an arse..

I'm fucked off because I actually have some sympathy with your position but you've argued it so fucking badly that you've shut down sensible debate.

I'm all for running one up Pickers; it should be a sport; but he's had you left, right, and center.

Do us a favour and bail out.

It's Hertford. He hasn't got thenous or the insight to realise he's snookered himself.
It's a pity butchersapron said not to mention kristallnacht, or I'd mention kristallnacht.

 

[Spymaster]

It's Hertford. He hasn't got thenous or the insight to realise he's snookered himself.
It's a pity butchersapron said not to mention kristallnacht, or I'd mention kristallnacht.

What's the significance of kristallnacht?

 

[tufty79]

If i'd known there would be a tory majority, i'd have baked a cake last week



Austerity cake, tbf - a third of the recommended quantities, and no proper icing bag


I was searching for thatcher death cakes a while back and couldn't find any - think i might try my hand at a 'still dead' one next

 

[DotCommunist]

What's the significance of kristallnacht?

on a march against cuts some black Bloc masked up gentleman and/or/ ladies stoved in a few bank windows.

AH decried this as similar to kristellnacht

 

[Maharani]

Nice video here:

ACE!

 

[sunnysidedown]

I don't really care if it's a normal figure of speech on Mars - it's still fucking stupid in london.

Sorry I missed this. I'm not saying it's a normal figure of speech and that it should be accepted as such, it's pretty obvious that shouting that as term of abuse could easily be mistaken, as has been proved on this thread.

I was surprised as most on here when I listened to the original clip, not due to the alleged racist nature but as a term of abuse that i've not heard being used against the police in years (possibly decades) and mainly at the football in the eighties (Newcastle). I couldn't work out why someone at a demo that looked to be made up of mainly young people would have someone shouting that out. So checking out his other videos reveals him to be a bloke in (I think) his 50's, and from Darlington.

It was odd watching that video of the protest and seeing all these references to the 80's, Joy Division & Cramps T-Shirts, a Sergio Tacchini tracksuit top and someone shouting black bastards at the cops... all that was needed was a majority tory government in power.

 

[Casually Red]

on a march against cuts some black Bloc masked up gentleman and/or/ ladies stoved in a few bank windows.

AH decried this as similar to kristellnacht

That's fucking brilliant

Really shouldn't be posting at 11 in the morning while inebriated....but kristallnacht..

 

[Casually Red]

P/M's a public schoolboy? well my my, that explains a lot.

Little lord Fauntleroy..innit

Fucking kristallnacht...stilll giggling about that one

 

[Pickman's model]

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[ViolentPanda]

What's the significance of kristallnacht?

Hertford compared a couple of broken bank windows to kristallnacht - the setting of the Nazi hounds on German Jewry and the expropriation of what property remained to them - basically the realisation of the Nuremberg laws.
He's somewhat of a hyperbolic twat, is Hertford.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hertford compared a couple of broken bank windows to kristallnacht - the setting of the Nazi hounds on German Jewry and the expropriation of what property remained to them - basically the realisation of the Nuremberg laws.
He's somewhat of a hyperbolic twat, is Hertford.

he talks a lot of hyperbollocks

 

[Pickman's model]

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[Pickman's model]

So who does have a mandate from this election? Tory + UKIP got over 50% of the vote. It's clear what people have voted for, much as you and I and urban75 don't like it.

you're either lying or you can't add up. according to the bbc (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results) the tory party got 36.9% of the vote. ukip got 12.6% of the vote. i make that a total of 49.5%, which is - albeit only traditionally - less than 50%.

 

[Pickman's model]

come in AC14 i'm still waiting for an answer

e2a: oops, yer man seems to have left the building

as you were

 

[bi0boy]

you're either lying or you can't add up. according to the bbc (Results of the 2015 General Election - Election 2015 - BBC News) the tory party got 36.9% of the vote. ukip got 12.6% of the vote. i make that a total of 49.5%, which is - albeit only traditionally - less than 50%.

49.56595473% actually, so you really ought to have said 49.6%.

 

[Pickman's model]

49.56595473% actually, so you really ought to have said 49.6%.

Perhaps you could show your working

 

[Libertad]

49.56595473% actually, so you really ought to have said 49.6%.

Not if you were being accurate to eight decimal places.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

Fucking Ayda, geezer. You're an arse.

I'm fucked off because I actually have some sympathy with your position but you've argued it so fucking badly that you've shut down sensible debate.

I'm all for running one up Pickers; it should be a sport; but he's had you left, right, and center.

Yeah… of course….

Thanks mate, if I ever need your advice then I'll ask for it.

 

[waxoyl]

Fuck the tories Manchester is red

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[teqniq]

 

[waxoyl]

in town today good turn out.

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[mather]

Fuck the tories Manchester is red

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Don't see much red there, just a lot of blue giving support to a neo-liberal cartel.

 

[waxoyl]

Your right . like the puppet but a bit to fucking blue.

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