Fascist attack on SWP in Lewisham

[dynamicbaddog]

Sounds quite nasty, 2 men attacked both requiring hospital treatment
http://transpont.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/fascist-attack-in-lewisham-today.html

 

[articul8]

Nice to see the master race demonstrating their superiority by punching a pensioner in a "gang" of two. Must take guts that.

 

[Onket]

What the fuck were all those other people saying they were there too up to? Standing by and letting it happen?

 

[manny-p]

What the fuck were all those other people saying they were there too up to? Standing by and letting it happen?

Some people are useless in altercations of the violent kind.

 

[HST]

Some people are useless in altercations of the violent kind.

Most of us had our last fight in the playground. Violence can happen, and be over, very quickly. People take time to react.

 

[manny-p]

Most of us had our last fight in the playground. Violence can happen, and be over, very quickly. People take time to react.

That's nothing to be ashamed of. But its always handy to know some self defence techniques/skills for situations such as this. The scum will gain confidence from this.

 

[articul8]

Seems like the SWP failed to watch the backs of their comrades - if they expect people to man a stall in the presence of a menacing group of far right supporters, near where you've called an anti-fascist assembly, they should at least provide them with some back up.

(Presumably their leaders think this kind of thing is good publicity?)

 

[teqniq]

So what about the OB? It says in that article that the stall was opposite Lewisham nick, but no sign of them, not even after the attack when you'd think maybe they'd be taking statements or something. I know it's very easy to slate them but still...

 

[ViolentPanda]

So what about the OB? It says in that article that the stall was opposite Lewisham nick, but no sign of them, not even after the attack when you'd think maybe they'd be taking statements or something. I know it's very easy to slate them but still...

Same old story. Coppers absent when the far right are putting the boot in.

 

[Red Storm]

So what about the OB? It says in that article that the stall was opposite Lewisham nick, but no sign of them, not even after the attack when you'd think maybe they'd be taking statements or something. I know it's very easy to slate them but still...

The SWP should be able to defend themselves without requiring the police.

 

[teqniq]

The SWP should be able to defend themselves without requiring the police.

Fair enough, but the OB were rather conspicuous by their absence it would seem.

 

[Red Storm]

Fair enough, but the OB were rather conspicuous by their absence it would seem.

I personally think they hate the SWP as much as they hate the EDL.

Could be a number of reasons why they didn't turn up.

 

[The39thStep]

Same old story. Coppers absent when the far right are putting the boot in.

Are you saying this is not a coincidence?

 

[_angel_]

a pasty faced woman with dyed black hair and an eyebrow piercing

 

[The39thStep]

Sounds quite nasty, 2 men attacked both requiring hospital treatment
http://transpont.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/fascist-attack-in-lewisham-today.html


can someone amend spelling mistake in the title please?

anti fascism as snobbery

- a pasty faced woman with dyed black hair and an eyebrow piercing

 

[Captain Hurrah]

Chavs.

 

[HST]

That's nothing to be ashamed of. But its always handy to know some self defence techniques/skills for situations such as this. The scum will gain confidence from this.

Agreed. Seems we've been here before - I know I have.

 

[HST]

anti fascism as snobbery

The spelling mistake or the description of the fascist spotter?

 

[Captain Hurrah]

a pasty faced woman with dyed black hair and an eyebrow piercing

Oh, hello Lusty.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you saying this is not a coincidence?

I'm saying that the history of British racism/fascism is riddled with instances of police "non-availability" similar to what is mentioned above, so I'm not sure that the label "coincidence" is an apt one.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I personally think they hate the SWP as much as they hate the EDL.

Could be a number of reasons why they didn't turn up.

Tradition, for example.

 

[ddraig]

probably take the pigs at least 10mins to get out of their fortress even if they gave a shit

 

[The39thStep]

I'm saying that the history of British racism/fascism is riddled with instances of police "non-availability" similar to what is mentioned above, so I'm not sure that the label "coincidence" is an apt one.

Actually the history of British fascism has been more of a three cornered fight between anti fascists, fascists and police. Next Saturday the area where the stalls are will be crawling with Johnny Law.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Actually the history of British fascism has been more of a three cornered fight between anti fascists, fascists and police.

Usually with the police as the late arrival to the party, and on the side of the fascists or, when necessary, pretending to be neutral.

Next Saturday the area where the stalls are will be crawling with Johnny Law.

Which is all well and good, but doesn't explain or excuse their absence this saturday.

 

[The39thStep]

Usually with the police as the late arrival to the party, and on the side of the fascists or, when necessary, pretending to be neutral.


Which is all well and good, but doesn't explain or excuse their absence this saturday.

Not even sure if that is the case these days,. If it wasn't for the Police the anti fascist would have had a serious problem in Manchester when it was the first EDL demo.

There is a pub that I nearly got stabbed in up here that is next door to a police station and you never see the Police there either.

 

[Transpontine]

anti fascism as snobbery

As the author of that piece can I just be clear that I don't have a problem with eyebrow piercing or Paul's Boutique - the description is included simply because it might help the victims identify their attackers, not to make any snobby point about EDL dress codes.​

I am personally very critical of the 'anti-Chav' tone of some anti-EDL discourse. The problem isn't that there are too many 'chavs' in the EDL - it's that there aren't enough 'chavs' on the 'left'​

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[The39thStep]

As the author of that piece can I just be clear that I don't have a problem with eyebrow piercing or Paul's Boutique - the description is included simply because it might help the victims identify their attackers, not to make any snobby point about EDL dress codes.​

I am personally very critical of the 'anti-Chav' tone of some anti-EDL discourse. The problem isn't that there are too many 'chavs' in the EDL - it's that there aren't enough 'chavs' on the 'left'​

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Totally unconvincing to think that 'pasty faced' would help either identify the attackers or change the composition of the left.

 

[Deareg]

I thought the witness was describing that horrible bastard who fell off the bus in Tower Hamlets a few months ago?

 

[HST]

Totally unconvincing to think that 'pasty faced' would help either identify the attackers or change the composition of the left.

get over yourself. "pasty faced" is relevant as is "tanned" or "tattooed".

 

[peterkro]

Totally unconvincing to think that 'pasty faced' would help either identify the attackers or change the composition of the left.

You ever had a physical description written down by Police.No fucking earlobes,the bastards,caused me concern for days.