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TP was harmless I feel a bit sorry for her and struggle to give a shit about class or wealth to be honest when it comes to this sort of thing.
 
Are we all reading the same thread? I can't have that many people on ignore surely. I haven't seen a single instance of 'glee' and the only vitriol has been directed at people who weren't respectful enough.
 
Are we all reading the same thread? I can't have that many people on ignore surely. I haven't seen a single instance of 'glee' and the only vitriol has been directed at people who weren't respectful enough.

No, you're right there is no glee, just a bit of who cares. We always have the same dance when someone controversial dies.

I knew 3 things about this woman before she died. She was born into extraordinary privilege, she was beautiful and she was a massive wreckhead. The combination of the 3 made her famous and the only reason any of us have ever heard of us. It would seem somewhat bizarre to avoid discussing those things after her untimely death.

I dunno maybe she loved her mum or volunteered at the donkey sanctuary or something. Maybe she used her extraordinary privilege to make the world a better place, maybe her £400 a day habit put a dealer's kid through school, I just don't know. If anyone here personally knew her or was a massive fan (for what reason I don't know) then sorry if its affected you, but really shrug and move on. Comparing it to the loss of someone personally known on these boards seems a bit of a stretch, when that happens people here act out of respect for posters who personally knew that person, which is the right thing to do.
 
Ambivalance I get. My own feelings regarding TPT are ambivalent save for the fact that I find the death of a 45 year old woman rather sad. It's the obvious glee that some are taking that I find fucked-up. On the rest of your post, it's a question of relative wealth. You have access to medical treatment and facilities that 90% of the people on the planet could only dream of. Should you be vilified for that? There are plenty of people on this very website who spend shit loads of cash on cocaine and other drugs while others are living below the poverty line.

On the vacuity, she seemed pretty normal in the (admittedly few) interviews that I saw of her and in that jungle program she seemed pleasant enough.

The hatred is clearly based on who she was rather than what she did. I think it's also the case that a lot of what she's disliked for (the publicity/limelight, all the "it girl" shit) was probably forced on her by a society that's interested in all that bollocks.
1) What maomao said, who's showing 'glee'
2) As I said (although you seem determined not to read) It's not just she had access to that wealth but that she did not see anything wrong with the state of affairs that enabled her to live a life of luxury while others in the same country are struggling.

Bringing up hitler is bizarre. You said:


Noone has said that on this thread, which is why I posted this as a direct response to the conclusion you jumped to in bold:
The part in bold clearly relates to the part you haven't bolded, keigthy's nonsense clearly does imply that.
 
"Fuck her" from Bahnhoff, and "no loss" from Bellend, are examples of barely concealed glee. Let's not kid each other.
If you think that's glee you must live an incredibly emotionally flat existence. It was absolutely hyperbole on your part.
 
2) As I said (although you seem determined not to read) It's not just she had access to that wealth but that she did not see anything wrong with the state of affairs that enabled her to live a life of luxury while others in the same country are struggling.
I've read it. YOU are living a life of relative luxury whilst others are struggling, dying too. What does "in the same country" have to do with anything, other than being convenient for you?
 
I've read it. YOU are living a life of relative luxury whilst others are struggling, dying too. What does "in the same country" have to do with anything, other than being convenient for you?
Well I guess you must just be really thick then because that'e twice that you've missed the important part of that statement - that she did not see anything wrong with the state of affairs
 
... that'e twice that you've missed the important part of that statement - that she did not see anything wrong with the state of affairs
How do you know that?

Do you see something wrong with the inequality between your wealth and that of millions of others? If so what are you doing about it?

What about all of the Urban75 drug users/restaurant frequenters/holiday takers ...? Do you believe that they see "anything wrong with the state of affairs" to which they are party? Any comment on them then?
 
1) What maomao said, who's showing 'glee'
2) As I said (although you seem determined not to read) It's not just she had access to that wealth but that she did not see anything wrong with the state of affairs that enabled her to live a life of luxury while others in the same country are struggling.

The part in bold clearly relates to the part you haven't bolded, keigthy's nonsense clearly does imply that.

1) I never stated that anyone was showing glee. So I'm not sure why you are asking me to qualify that. However, Spymaster has answered that prior to your post. Perhaps you didn't read it :rolleyes::

"Fuck her" from Bahnhoff, and "no loss" from Bellend, are examples of barely concealed glee. Let's not kid each other.

2) I really don't know anything about her political views or about any of the charitable work which she may or may not have done. You seem to know a lot about her though. Can you provided a source to support your claim that she didn't see anything wrong with the current state of affairs, as you put it.

3) :confused: you're going to have to be a bit more clear.
 
No I don't think anyone is fooled by another one of your pathetic wind ups.
I'd say this is more like glee at someone's death

Why are you comparing responses to TPTs death to that of dictators and terrorists*. It's totally bizarre. She was a rich women who had a history of drug addiction not a mass murderer :facepalm:.

*Not that I agree with why Spy said in that instance.

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2) I really don't know anything about her political views or about any of the charitable work which she may or may not have done. You seem to know a lot about her though. Can you provided a source to support your claim that she didn't see anything wrong with the current state of affairs, as you put it.
You're quoting me but I think your question is to redsquirrel . :)
 
There's a 12 step group called CA which I went to for a while few years ago. It did not discriminate between people who were trying to recover from different forms of the same drug. The great thing about those rooms (all over London) was how non judgemental they were; I never once saw resentment or dismissal even though some people were homeless or had just got out of nick for the 6th time for doing whatever they had to do to fund their crack habit and others had just blown their bankers bonus getting the finest peruvian powder delivered or whatever. The shared experience of the abject misery of addiction was what mattered and made the whole thing work. Going there massively improved my perception of human beings capacity for empathy and genuine friendship across the divides of class wealth etc.
 
You still haven't answered this redsquirrel

2) I really don't know anything about her political views or about any of the charitable work which she may or may not have done. You seem to know a lot about her though. Can you provided a source to support your claim that she didn't see anything wrong with the current state of affairs, as you put it.

3) :confused: you're going to have to be a bit more clear.
 
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I haven't. I posted an example of what glee at a death looks like is as opposed to the 'meh, who give one' of belboid and BS.
You posted an example of glee at the death of an axe murderer, to support your bullshit that your mate Bellend was only "meh" at the death of a woman who hasn't hurt anyone but herself. Which is fucking bizarre, even for you.

:facepalm: You idiot! :D
 
You still haven't answered this redsquirrel
(2) The life she led, the luxury, the mingling with Royals, the fact that in all the vacuous nonsense she wrote, all the interviews she gave she didn't use them as an opportunity to mention the huge imbalances of wealth that exist in the UK or worldwide.

I've no idea what (3) refers to.
 
You posted an example of glee at the death of an axe murderer, to support your bullshit that your mate Bellend was only "meh" at the death of a woman who hasn't hurt anyone but herself. Which is fucking bizarre, even for you.

:facepalm: You idiot! :D

I liked Belboid's post and didn't find it gleeful. You have such longstanding beef with him that you can't even bring yourself to use his actual screen name so wouldn't really trust you to give an unbiased reading of what he posts.

Bahnhof Strasse 's posts were pretty neutral until he was attacked for not showing the correct level of respect for a dead cokehead. The 'fuck her' was only in response to that criticism and fair enough IMO.
 
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