farewell tara palmer-tomkinson
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Do you think that death is the worst thing that can happen in life?
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
no, mrs quoad, work is.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Having to read one of your threads comes pretty close.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the worst thing that can happen in life is to be in front of a torturer who has no remit to keep you alive but simply to get the information out of you, one who enjoys his work and doesn't start with the questions. He starts with your feet, your balls and your hands. You and he both know you won't be needing them again. I fucking hate torturers, real scum
hey that turned dark quickly. Just random musings
hey that turned dark quickly. Just random musings
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Ta'ra
albionism
A successful virus clinging to a speck of mud.
I wouldn't, and didn't.
maomao
普費斯
Me either. I don't get the whole 'fancying posh birds' thing at all.
Not keen on braying toffs or cokeheads at all. I wouldn't have wished her dead but I wouldn't wish her back alive either.
Shall we remember this next time a middle class white urbanite dies from drug related causes?
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
Using the deaths of community members to try to score points in a debate about the death of Tara Palmer-Tompkinson is a bit shit, isn't it?
I'm not scoring points at all. I am pointing out how offensive it is to make out somebody's death doesn't matter etc just because they were privileged and 'Chose to get mullered'.
Ftr the reason I find that sentiment so offensive is BECAUSE of the death of community members who I miss and loved and don't appreciate people saying 'FUCK EM'
Ftr the reason I find that sentiment so offensive is BECAUSE of the death of community members who I miss and loved and don't appreciate people saying 'FUCK EM'
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Even if it's true then her money certainly gave her access to better health care than most people, and she probably died in more comfort than most. And of course before her illness she had access to a level of treatment for her addiction that most addicts can only dream off.
I resent the fact that she was born with access to wealth and seemed to think there was nothing wrong that she and others spending their time sorting coke and skiing while others are living below the poverty line. Was she vacuous, she certainly came across that way in interviews but that's all I can judge on. I'm sorry for her friends and family but personally I'm pretty ambivalent about her death.
maomao
普費斯
I 'took a look' at the whole thread and couldn't find any. Where did this happen?
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Because we all draw the line, unless you believe that people can't utter anything but 'how sad' at the death of anyone.
Chilli.s
mingling jets and statuettes
Poor rich Tara, RIP.
Does leave us with a repeat of the addiction lesson. Her lifestyle meant that she lived her life in the spotlight, we all saw her nose fall off, we all heard about giving a grand to a tramp. Dying young is always a hard one to swallow, loss of any potential good that her life could have had in its vanished future.
She came across as having wit and ability to cross a class divide that few toffs manage to pull off with such openness.
Does leave us with a repeat of the addiction lesson. Her lifestyle meant that she lived her life in the spotlight, we all saw her nose fall off, we all heard about giving a grand to a tramp. Dying young is always a hard one to swallow, loss of any potential good that her life could have had in its vanished future.
She came across as having wit and ability to cross a class divide that few toffs manage to pull off with such openness.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
There are a number of people on the thread who have been frank about their feelings and perception of TPT without resorting to blaming her for her addictions and being quite nasty about her death.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Yes, so? How does that relate to keithy's post arguing that nobody has the right to "choose who counts"? Unless you are seriously arguing that everybody's, Hitler's, Trumps, Pinochet's etc, death is a tragedy then we all put a line somewhere.
maomao
普費斯
If you're known for taking drugs you're going to get comments about it when you die. If I die of lung cancer I'm sure everyone who knows me will blame it on my years of smoking. It has been long established on this message board that we are not obliged to be respectful on the RIP threads of celebrities.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Bringing up hitler is bizarre. You said:
Noone has said that on this thread, which is why I posted this as a direct response to the conclusion you jumped to in bold:
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh i did think cheesypoof said the death of anyone at 45 is sad, which to my mind's far from being the case as the deaths of heinrich himmler (44) and indeed martin bormann (very nearly 45) by no means sad. imho. not to mention 'skrewydriver' ian stuart donaldson (36). i am sure similar delightful deaths will occur to others.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
I don't think there's any expectation, not from me anyway, he her drug use is covered up and she's regarded as some kind of Saint! But there's a different between that and the vitriol spouted by some. If if makes people feel better well *shrug*
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
She's a fan of Ivanka Trump and David Icke. Her opinion counts for dick.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
how very true.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
You are bang on there keithy . Bang on.
Urban - who usually hate toffs - seem to be "forgiving" her because she was "hot". The hypocrisy smells even from this distance.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Ambivalance I get. My own feelings regarding TPT are ambivalent save for the fact that I find the death of a 45 year old woman rather sad. It's the obvious glee that some are taking that I find fucked-up. On the rest of your post, it's a question of relative wealth. You have access to medical treatment and facilities that 90% of the people on the planet could only dream of. Should you be vilified for that? There are plenty of people on this very website who spend shit loads of cash on cocaine and other drugs while others are living below the poverty line.
On the vacuity, she seemed pretty normal in the (admittedly few) interviews that I saw of her and in that jungle program she seemed pleasant enough.
The hatred is clearly based on who she was rather than what she did. I think it's also the case that a lot of what she's disliked for (the publicity/limelight, all the "it girl" shit) was probably forced on her by a society that's interested in all that bollocks.
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