Clearly the villains were not the sharpest knives in the draw as they were caught by finger-prints. Everyone in Brazil has their finger-prints on file with the Federal police, you have them taken when you get an ID card, you need an ID card here for even simple things, so it is almost impossible to live without one.Good news for the extended Ecclestone family.
F1 chief Bernie Ecclestone's mother-in-law freed - BBC News
No-one hurt and no money paid out.
I suspect the Sao Paulo Police Department's Christmas Dinner, Dance and Bingo might have a few more baubles on the tree this year...
Have they been doing that for long?Clearly the villains were not the sharpest knives in the draw as they were caught by finger-prints. Everyone in Brazil has their finger-prints on file with the Federal police, you have them taken when you get an ID card, you need an ID card here for even simple things, so it is almost impossible to live without one. ..
The news here also says it was Bernie's helicopter pilot behind it but I'm sure there will be other arrests.
Yes for many many years, from speaking to people in the bread queue as long as anyone could remember, well over 60 years it seems speaking to people today, from personal experience I got my first ID card in Brazil well over 30 years ago and they took my prints than.Have they been doing that for long?
Back when we were discussing ID cards for the UK, I don't remember anyone quoting Brazil as an example of where it worked, hence my question. Interesting though and one to remember. And back to the case in question, it does seem the kidnappers were not very clever.Yes for many many years, from speaking to people in the bread queue as long as anyone could remember, well over 60 years it seems speaking to people today, from personal experience I got my first ID card in Brazil well over 30 years ago and they took my prints than.
It appears now from news reports that they knew who to look for with-in 12 hours of the kidnapping, the news is also reporting that the kidnappers spoke to representatives of the family by mobile phone from inside the apartment where they were holding Aparecida Schunck, so the police used cell-site analysis to pin-point the address. It seems clear that there was no "mastermind" involved just a few chancers as it appears they didn't have much of a clue as to how to keep themselves off the radar, some communication was also via email but not much information about that has come out yet, the internet has only really taken off here in the last few years, for sure just 6 years ago very few people had access unless that used an internet cafe, so it wouldn't surprise me if they used their own mobile phones to send the emails
It depends on what you mean by "worked" Brazil has a number of ways of "tracking" its citizens, as well as the ID card everyone in Brazil has a CPF number (the closest thing in the UK is the N.I. number). This is a tax number and can be asked for when you buy anything, its use differs State by State, but for some transactions it has to be given across the country. For example in Sao Paulo (and many other States) many super-markets ask for your CPF when you shop there also if you buy anything in Brazil that has a guarantee or warranty you will have to give your CPF. Anyone can look up a CPF number via the internet and see who it belongs too and if they are blacklisted for credit etc, you can do the same for a car registration number to see who it is registered too. All this information is also available to the police and government, so for example if the police are looking for someone they can look up their CPF and see where it was last used and it gives an indication of what State or city they are in. Foreigners living in Brazil will also have a CPF and a RNE number so they can be tracked, again it is very hard to live here without these numbers, for example; a foreigner can not open a back account without an RNE. Also now to use the public health system you need a SUS number and if you see a doctor or go to hospital you have to give that number before you can get treatment, this is entered into a central computer system and again can alert the authorities as to where you are.Back when we were discussing ID cards for the UK, I don't remember anyone quoting Brazil as an example of where it worked, hence my question. Interesting though and one to remember. And back to the case in question, it does seem the kidnappers were not very clever.
If you can't get sky go on the phone post a message here and I'll send you a good working link so you can watch the race, I'm sure you wouldn't want to miss Monza(The following week, I may miss the whole weekend because of a sad family situation. On the other hand, I may be able to set up Sky Go on my phone... Who needs to be liked by family anyway? It's not like they can unfriend me.)
Its all getting a little silly isn't itApparently the grid place penalty record is held by Jenson Button - 70 places.
It's lucky they don't have to carry forward penalties to later races.
I read something a while ago that said if Bernie leaves (or dies) any new company taking over F1 is likely to have 3 people doing his job, one person dealing with the racing side of things, one person dealing with the marketing/TV rights etc and a CEO overseeing and coordinating them and between the 3 of them they wouldn't earn the same as BernieSince Bernie isn't immortal, a change in style and direction is inevitable. Unless they have meetings with a ouija board.
I hope the new owner will remember the worldwide audience and die-hards while they are making their 'improvements'.
Some wags are texting Sky suggesting that since Lewis is on 2 reprimands, he should commit some track-based infraction in practice. He then incurs his third reprimand, takes the 10-place grid penalty, and starts again with a clean slate.
Genius.