Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job

[fela fan]

Cheers for that. So it's another fact-free bit of evidence-untroubled speculation scooped up by the conspiraloon movement and declared an Absolute Truth.

Maybe i'm having trouble with english as well as italian, but from oake's translation it seems to me that indeed the ex-premier or italy is saying he thinks it's an inside job.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Maybe i'm having trouble with english as well as italian, but from oake's translation it seems to me that indeed the ex-premier or italy is saying he thinks it's an inside job.

No, it says that the ex - president (premier? wtf?) thinks the video was a fake.

Christ, next thing you'll say is that Walking With Dinosaurs prove that evolution is a lie.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Yay, more conspiraloon shit, just what the world needs.

 

[Jazzz]

Aha, and a little research rather makes it look as if the conspiralooons have got the wrong end of the stick again. From what I can gather, he seems to be saying something rather different to '9/11 inside mossad job'
Here is the original article, anyone good at translating?

It looks as if he is commenting on the latest Bin Laden tape, which he says will be proven to be a fake, faked by Silvio Berlusconi's "Mediaset".

He then goes on to say that nobody has come forward standing up for the authenticity of the Osama tape, because Osama admits to doing 9/11... specifically;

"Da ambienti vicini a Palazzo Chigi, centro nevralgico di direzione dell'intelligence italiana..."
http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_novembre_30/osama_be...

My very rough interpretation of what he is saying is something like; "The atmosphere around Palazzo Chigi, nerve center of Italian intelligence..." is that the tape is not authentic, and this is bolstered by the fact that the sense in the "ambienti democratici d'America e d'Europa" (democratic atmosphere of America and Europe) is that 9/11 was a CIA/MOSSAD job. He goes out of his way to say that this is definitely the case with the Italian left.

That's not quite the same as what the conspiraloons are saying, but if anyone can do a better translation it might help. It looks like he is having a go at Berlisconi and the febrile atmosphere in which conspiracy theories thrive. But my Italian is very poor.

'steamin' is fluent in Italian - hopefully we should get a translation back from him soon.

 

[butchersapron]

Did you ever get the translation done on that birmingham job btw?>

 

[Jazzz]

Did you ever get the translation done on that birmingham job btw?>

I didn't, was just thinking about that. I should have done

 

[butchersapron]

You really should have. Because your failure to do so left your arse hanging out of the window looking stupid.

 

[editor]

I didn't, was just thinking about that. I should have done

Jazzz in half-arsed research full of fail shocker!

 

[Augie March]

The translation on Wiki goes like this:

From circles around Palazzo Chigi, nerve centre of direction of Italian intelligence, it is noted that the non-authenticity of the video is testified from the fact that Osama bin Laden in it 'confessed' that Al Qaeda would have been the author of the attack of the 11 September to the Twin Towers in New York, while all of the democratic circles of America and of Europe, with in the forefront those of the Italian centre-left, now know well that the disastrous attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan. For this, no word of solidarity arrived to Silvio Berlusconi, who has been the author of the brilliant falsification, neither from the Quirinale, nor from Palazzo Chigi, nor from representatives of the centre-left!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Cossiga

I'm curious to know if the OP, and the rest of conspiracy theorists here, feel that Cossiga is still a credible source, considering that he seems to be supporting, what seems to me to be a rather anti-semitic viewpoint.

 

[EddyBlack]

Italian-speaker non-conspiraloon to thread! Anyone?

Is Nino Savatte Italian? He's got an Italian name like.

The balls in your court Dr RingDing, find an Italian!

ETA: Just spotted a page 2&3.

Looks like he did say inside job according to the traslation above.

 

[kyser_soze]

Can I just point out that since we give no credence to the words of another president, George Bush, can someone give me a reason why we should take the word of another, espcially since he's going down 'It's the Jews wot dun it' line?

 

[8den]

Jazzz in half-arsed research full of fail shocker!

Jazzz in using yet another anti semitic racist to support his claims shocker!

 

[DrRingDing]

The translation on Wiki goes like this:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Cossiga

I'm curious to know if the OP, and the rest of conspiracy theorists here, feel that Cossiga is still a credible source, considering that he seems to be supporting, what seems to me to be a rather anti-semitic viewpoint.

So anybody who criticises the aims of Zionists are now rabid Nazi sympathisers?

Jesus, give me strength.

 

[tarannau]

Erm, who mentioned 'nazi sympathisers' then?

 

[DrRingDing]

Erm, who mentioned 'nazi sympathisers' then?

That was implied.

 

[DrRingDing]

Infact, I think it's enough to invoke Godwin's Law.

 

[fela fan]

It would seem we need a bilingual italian/english person to give us a proper translation before we can really comment.

Meanwhile we should not forget that michael meacher thinks it's an inside job... and how credible or not is he?

 

[DrRingDing]

It would seem we need a bilingual italian/english person to give us a proper translation before we can really comment.

Meanwhile we should not forget that michael meacher thinks it's an inside job... and how credible or not is he?

I've been trying to get hold of an Italian mate.

He's a smelly political type, so he'll know the craic.

 

[fela fan]

What about paolo di canio? He's a political sort. Can't we get him on the act?

 

[butchersapron]

It would seem we need a bilingual italian/english person to give us a proper translation before we can really comment.

Meanwhile we should not forget that michael meacher thinks it's an inside job... and how credible or not is he?

Utterly credible. A more ruthless pursuer of truth i know not.

 

[EddyBlack]

He's another Nazi though.

 

[tarannau]

That was implied.

No it wasn't. That's clearly in your head.

Are you still so keen to yelp excitedly about this story now that the translation renders it not much of a shock at all, particularly given the routine anti-semitic slurs from this bod?

 

[fela fan]

Utterly credible. A more ruthless pursuer of truth i know not.

What??! You reckon politicians are pursuers of truth??

Get a grip man!

 

[butchersapron]

Here's a gaping big hole fela, would you be so kind as to jump into it?

 

[Augie March]

So anybody who criticises the aims of Zionists are now rabid Nazi sympathisers?

Jesus, give me strength.

Nobody mentioned Nazi sympathisers and nobody implied it.

All I'm asking here is of the people citing Cossiga as a credible source, think that it's perfectly credible that the 'Zionist world' was collabarating with the American CIA and Mosssad in a plot to kill thousands of innocent people, in order to provoke Western aggression towards Arab states.

Credible or no?

 

[fela fan]

Here's a gaping big hole fela, would you be so kind as to jump into it?

There's only one kind of hole i'm happy to jump into mate, and i don't think this is that sort of hole...

So, in a nutshell, no.

 

[butchersapron]

Too late, too late etc

 

[fela fan]

Too late, too late etc

Only when death reaches me.

 

[DrRingDing]

What about paolo di canio? He's a political sort. Can't we get him on the act?

To appease my lazy brain, I put Italians in two parent groups. My mate is not in Paolo's group.

 

[DrRingDing]

Nobody mentioned Nazi sympathisers and nobody implied it.

All I'm asking here is of the people citing Cossiga as a credible source, think that it's perfectly credible that the 'Zionist world' was collabarating with the American CIA and Mosssad in a plot to kill thousands of innocent people, in order to provoke Western aggression towards Arab states.

Credible or no?

Get back under your rock.