Does the left understand the working class and how would they answer their concerns?

[revol68]

Revol, have you ever considered the fact that virtually no one who has posted on this thread agrees with your world view might suggest you're barking up the wrong tree?

the people disagreeing with me on this thread have been you (a intellectually illiterate desk jockey), Darios(right wing muppet), LLETSA (Carousel with the fun sapped out him) and Pickman's Model (a stalker of mine that wouldn't actually agree with any of your shit beyond getting to snipe at me).

Funny enough the thoughts of this slection of diffuse rabble don't really mean much to me.

 

[Pickman's model]

the people disagreeing with me on this thread have been you (a intellectually illiterate desk jockey), Darios(right wing muppet), LLETSA (Carousel with the fun sapped out him) and Pickman's Model (a stalker of mine that wouldn't actually agree with any of your shit beyond getting to snipe at me).

Funny enough the thoughts of this slection of diffuse rabble don't really mean much to me.

if i stalked you i would have spent much of the past three years pissing about on libcom. don't fucking flatter yourself you fuckwitted muppet.

 

[revol68]

That's not what I meant.

So what did you mean?

 

[_pH_]

the people disagreeing with me on this thread have been you (a intellectually illiterate desk jockey), Darios(right wing muppet), LLETSA (Carousel with the fun sapped out him) and Pickman's Model (a stalker of mine that wouldn't actually agree with any of your shit beyond getting to snipe at me).

Funny enough the thoughts of this slection of diffuse rabble don't really mean much to me.

Oh fuck, that is so funny

You really are on another planet aren't you?

 

[revol68]

no, it doesn't fucking follow, you sorry excuse for a human being. either your politics are fucking airy-fairy wank without any foundation in the real world (which is where your politics appear to be) or they are founded on people's everyday lives. to quote the late, great raoul vaneigem, people who talk about revolution and class struggle without referring explicitly to everyday life ... such people have a corpse in their mouth. it is utterly fucking fuckwitted to remove your politics from reality - if you want to get from fucking a to fucking b you have to know where fucking a is first. you've admitted that you are unrealistic; don't be so crass as to believe everyone else makes the same error.

You quote Vaneigem but give off at me for not basing my politics in everyday life? That muppet would mistake my summer on the dole for a proto revolutionary act ffs.

 

[_pH_]

That muppet would mistake my summer on the dole for a proto revolutionary act ffs.

Well, that IS pretty much how you were making it out to be, before you started backpedalling.

 

[Pickman's model]

You quote Vaneigem but give off at me for not basing my politics in everyday life? That muppet would mistake my summer on the dole for a proto revolutionary act ffs.

it's as close as i believe you've ever got to a revolutionary act, proto or otherwise.

 

[revol68]

Oh fuck, that is so funny

You really are on another planet aren't you?

I'd suggest you are if you think the selection of rabble on this thread making conflicted criticisms of my politics are anything more than the intellectual shit on Urban's shoe.

The only thing uniting youse are various contradictary grievances with me, none of youse share a political outlook.

 

[_pH_]

I'd suggest you are if you think the selection of rabble on this thread making conflicted criticisms of my politics are anything more than the intellectual shit on Urban's shoe.

The only thing uniting youse are various contradictary grievances with me, none of youse share a political outlook.

And? Who said we have to share any sort of political views?

We probably hold many different views and many different perspectives, but that doesn't mean we can't agree that you're detached from reality.

And that first para is incredibly patronising and, again, speaks volumes about the sort of person you are.

 

[revol68]

Well, that IS pretty much how you were making it out to be, before you started backpedalling.

eh no I wasn't you daft fuck.

 

[Pickman's model]

And? Who said we have to share any sort of political views?

We probably hold many different views and many different perspectives, but that doesn't mean we can't agree that you're detached from reality.

he's not detached, not even semi-detached, but a bungalow.

 

[_pH_]

eh no I wasn't you daft fuck.

Really. Whatever.

And yet again, why the abuse? Is that all you have?

 

[Pickman's model]

Really. Whatever.

And yet again, why the abuse? Is that all you have?

it's all he'll ever have

 

[revol68]

And? Who said we have to share any sort of political views?

We probably hold many different views and many different perspectives, but that doesn't mean we can't agree that you're detached from reality.

Sorry what reality am I divorced from? Considering you nobs don't actually share the same notion of 'reality' I'd suggest that appeals to some pre ideological reality are themselves the product of ideological thinking par excellence.

 

[Carousel]

Revol, have you ever considered the fact that virtually no one who has posted on this thread agrees with your world view might suggest you're barking up the wrong tree?

Priceless. Nothing persuades like social proof. Ha ha. Like I said earlier, peel back the layers of value-laden faith based belief, and you'll always get down to the "what every right thinking normal decent person" thinks line. As if under normal circumstances they'd care what the herd think.

 

[revol68]

Really. Whatever.

And yet again, why the abuse? Is that all you have?

because you have resorted to simply lying.

find me one post where I suggest me signing on was a revolutionary act.

 

[_pH_]

Sorry what reality am I divorced from? Considering you nobs don't actually share the same notion of 'reality' I'd suggest that appeals to some pre ideological reality are themselves the product of ideological thinking par excellence.

More abuse. Followed by pseudo-intellectualism.

 

[_pH_]

because you have resorted to simply lying.

find me one post where I suggest me signing on was a revolutionary act.

You've been abusive throughout this entire thread.

 

[revol68]

More abuse. Followed by pseudo-intellectualism.

If you disagree with my argument make a criticism of it, I'm more than willing to engage with you.

 

[revol68]

You've been abusive throughout this entire thread.

well no I just throw swear word around like confetti, that last post was meant abusively though because you have simply resorted to lying.

 

[Pickman's model]

Carousel is a wanton nihilsitc slut, whilst you are a coy cock teasing tart.

you must be the only person here who thinks lletsa is in any way "a cock teasing tart"

you sad sack of shit, revol

 

[LLETSA]

More abuse. Followed by pseudo-intellectualism.

Both Revol and Carousel are masters of unreadable pseudo-intellectual blather. It's why they appear to be on the brink of eloping.

 

[_pH_]

If you disagree with my argument make a criticism of it, I'm more than willing to engage with you.

But you're not are you? You've proven that time and time again by resorting to abuse (muppets, nobs, daft fuck etc.) and by posting some of the most pompous self aggrandising nonsense I've ever had the misfortune to read on here.

It's funny how you spoke earlier of how the working class is sectionalised/divided (or however you described it) by capitalism, yet you seem to have done a bloody good job yourself. Way to go.

 

[Pickman's model]

Both Revol and Carousel are masters of unreadable pseudo-intellectual blather. It's why they appear to be on the brink of eloping.

you must feel left out, what with revol seeing you as a cock teaser

 

[_pH_]

well no I just throw swear word around like confetti, that last post was meant abusively though because you have simply resorted to lying.

I couldn't actually give a shit what you think any more revol.

 

[LLETSA]

Priceless. Nothing persuades like social proof. Ha ha. Like I said earlier, peel back the layers of value-laden faith based belief, and you'll always get down to the "what every right thinking normal decent person" thinks line. As if under normal circumstances they'd care what the herd think.

Why do you think that what you purport to believe is any less faith-based than anybody else's viewpoint?

All you offer is a different version of what you think you're criticising. The only difference is your version is less coherent.

 

[revol68]

But you're not are you? You've proven that time and time again by resorting to abuse (muppets, nobs, daft fuck etc.) and by posting some of the most pompous self aggrandising nonsense I've ever had the misfortune to read on here.

It's funny how you spoke earlier of how the working class is sectionalised/divided (or however you described it) by capitalism, yet you seem to have done a bloody good job yourself. Way to go.

No despite the use of swear words I still respond to your posts.

Also I'm only grand standing because the muppets attacking me on this thread are of a non league standard.

 

[LLETSA]

you must feel left out, what with revol seeing you as a cock teaser

I wish them well, actually. I'm buying a china tea set for their wedding present.

 

[_pH_]

No despite the use of swear words I still respond to your posts.

Also I'm only grand standing because the muppets attacking me on this thread are of a non league standard.

You can't see it can you?

 

[revol68]

Why do you think that wht you purport to believe is any less faith-based than anybody else's viewpoint?

All you offer is a different version of what you think you're criticising. The only difference is your version is less coherent.

and that's your party piece!