Do we now need a General Election now
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Pointless question, because we're not going to get one.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
On a technical, pedantic point: no, we don't. PM's serve at the will of parliament - we literally elect MP's to decide to form/support/sack governments - who the PM is purely a matter for parliament, it's a system specifically designed to have governments come and go while parliament reigns supreme over them.
There's a follow on question when the largest bloc in parliament cannot, or will not, form or support a government, but we're not there yet.
There's a follow on question when the largest bloc in parliament cannot, or will not, form or support a government, but we're not there yet.
Well apparently when the awful deputy PM was fielding questions earlier it was "like a wake" and you could "see the loss inher eyes". That might i suppose just be the product of an over;active imagination but it did have a sort of decline of Empire vibe about it.They have been in power for a bloody long time-it feels like forever.
maomao
普費斯
Yes but there's a basic injustice that we elect a party on a manifesto and a new PM usually means a shift on those commitments.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Well Yes it would be nice but it's up to a very small group or maybe even one person, doesn't matter what the other 40+ million think. Even Truss and her advisors are not so dumb as to imagine they would win one if they called it now.
And even anti-Truss Tories won't see the need to call one even if they could force it. They still have more than 2 years left. That is PLENTY of time for the Tories to turn things round and romp home especially if they get rid of Loopy Liz sooner rather than later.
And even anti-Truss Tories won't see the need to call one even if they could force it. They still have more than 2 years left. That is PLENTY of time for the Tories to turn things round and romp home especially if they get rid of Loopy Liz sooner rather than later.
ska invita
back on the other side
...let me stop you there
maomao
普費斯
Okay. There's another injustice to add to the list.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep. I think we could be hurtling towards there, mind you. An 80 majority is huge to turn over, but it feels like we've entered uncharted territory.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
True, absolutely true - but (imv) the blend of duplicitous/incompetence pols, and 'events, dear boy, events' means you shouldn't take promises overly seriously, more take them as indications of a prefered direction of travel.
One could certainly argue that the step change between Johnson's economic policies and the 2019 manifesto falls into the 'no mandate for this' bin...
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Tory MPs will get rid of Truss one way or another and get Johnson back.
Then they'll want an election
Then they'll want an election
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
No. Economy is going to tank in the next year whatever happens, Truss Shenanigans would just make it worse, so let the Tories own it in full. Otherwise the Mail and Express will be trying ti sell to the terminally hard of thinking that the crash was 'all Labour's fault'... And some fuckwitts will believe them...
They couldn't justify doing that but that would be their best hope without a scintilla of a doubt
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Queen's dead mate. Sorry to have to tell you.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Surprised that never made the news.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Nah. Now is always the right time to get rid of the tories. Labour will always inherit a mess. Let it be this mess. Just a shame it has to be this Labour.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Not if they've seen any polling.
Johnson is still despised by the electorate, and the 'king over the water' bunch are a) few, and b) not listened to by the rest.
The 'bring back boris' crew are literally half a dozen MP's. No one else would touch him - his relationship with the Tory party in parliament is both semi-detached and transactional: neither like the other, but MP's recognise his talents. Those talents are now a busted flush, he wouldn't win them an election, he might not even make it much better, so the Tory MP's won't bring him back.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Just this. Turkeys don't vote for Xmas etc.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
It is interesting territory though as far as hated leaders go. Maybe it'll be a bit like when Belgium didn't have a government for years. Except in the middle of a massive economic crisis.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Absolutely no way will that happen. (Apart from the Truss going bit, that almost certainly will.)
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
If it's up to the party members, they'd choose Johnson if they could. They don't care that's he's an amoral waster with no policies, they think he's the only one who could win them the next election
He hasn't been caught out in any blatant lies for months and people have short memories
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
But prime ministers are never held to the manifesto commitments. Nobody ever stood on a 'privatise everything' manifesto but oh look, everything is privatised anyway.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
How can you tell when Coffeey has anything resembling human emotion. She's just a callous lump
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
Dunno mate, plenty of people voted for the tories over the past few decades.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I doubt the new leader will be elected by the membership, if it did go to the membership, there's no way Johnson will be one of the two options.
Fuzzy
Hearts Cov
but it's the tory members that were responsible for truss being elected. Will MPs make that mistake again or agree to parachute someone in to avoid having to go the members.
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
I don't know if the MPs are able to appoint a new leader without going through the members. Don't think they can
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