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Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

Yeah you haven't stopped anything much have you. You haven't stopped the animals from getting slaughtered, you haven't stopped the vans from taking the meat to the butcher, you haven't stopped the butcher's shop from opening. Being an angry vegan seems kinda pointless these days.
 
Christ, I just went to vegan revolution's twitter, they're a proper nasty piece of shit, full on antisemite, with 63,000 followers. Reporting them, with twitter's new rules.

That's the thing, because of what they eat / don't eat they genuinely think they're living a morally superior life, whilst spending their time spewing hatefilled racist bile. :rolleyes:

Hi :) Not come across this thread before and haven't previously seen nationalist/racist sympathy type stuff like it in relation to veggie/vegan issues. Would I be right in thinking it has some kind of origin in eco-nationalist/anti-globalist ideas?
 
And conspiraloonery. A lot of vegans i've known over the years have been into conspiracy theories too. I don't know why but I'd guess there's a certain mindset that lends itself to both interests.
 
Yeah you haven't stopped anything much have you. You haven't stopped the animals from getting slaughtered, you haven't stopped the vans from taking the meat to the butcher, you haven't stopped the butcher's shop from opening. Being an angry vegan seems kinda pointless these days.
Not sure what bollocks you're yapping on about now tbh. For a start I'm nowhere near "angry" and secondly, in spite of the strong meathead resistance particularly from the more bloodthirsty hardcore ones, there is a steady growth in interest and take up of veganism. If China can somehow manage to wise up and becomes more civilised and stops trying to adopt the SAD crap, we might even reach critical mass by 2045.
 
"Out of sight out of mind" indeed. That also applies to other aspects of modern life where the majority of folk would rather not know what is going on. There are some who claim that they would have no problem seeing the animals that they eat killed, however I would imagine that anybody that considers themselves compassionate and empathetic not be able to witness their deaths and remain unmoved.

Somewhat depends on where & how you were brought-up and life experiences, in my teens I regularly witnessed dinner being killed, be it a chicken on the small-holding down the road, or a pheasant shot by my father. Saw dad shoot many rabbits, but we weren't into eating them, but the dog fucking loved them.

A quick search on here, and I see at least one poster that has been shooting birds & hunting dear for many years, and I would be very surprised if he has a problem eating them.

Firstly, deer hunting is by no means the sole preserve of "Eton toffs", I've shot loads of them and am neither publicly educated nor toff-like!

So, Spymaster what do you think about personally killing & eating animals?
 
Not sure what bollocks you're yapping on about now tbh. For a start I'm nowhere near "angry" and secondly, in spite of the strong meathead resistance particularly from the more bloodthirsty hardcore ones, there is a steady growth in interest and take up of veganism. If China can somehow manage to wise up and becomes more civilised and stops trying to adopt the SAD crap, we might even reach critical mass by 2045.
Your true colours are starting to show here.
 
Somewhat depends on where & how you were brought-up and life experiences, in my teens I regularly witnessed dinner being killed, be it a chicken on the small-holding down the road, or a pheasant shot by my father. Saw dad shoot many rabbits, but we weren't into eating them, but the dog fucking loved them.

A quick search on here, and I see at least one poster that has been shooting birds & hunting dear for many years, and I would be very surprised if he has a problem eating them.



So, Spymaster what do you think about personally killing & eating animals?
Pa's really squeamish, he even looks away when cutting bacon or sausages on his plate

When he's shot deer it's because he missed the target he was aiming for, he's the terror of the glorious twelfth
 
It's amazing how a little cognitive dissonance can turn a short and concise statement that relates directly to a point so recently posted into incoherent nonsense.

Amazing.
 
Somewhat depends on where & how you were brought-up and life experiences, in my teens I regularly witnessed dinner being killed, be it a chicken on the small-holding down the road, or a pheasant shot by my father. Saw dad shoot many rabbits, but we weren't into eating them, but the dog fucking loved them.
Nature vs nurture. Indeed some people have been brought up with that kind of thing and don't feel at all squeamish at all and some of the hunting psychos love that shit. A substantial (an growing) number of compassionate and civilised people don't much care for blood and guts and are repulsed by it. Which explains why youtube have warnings on those types of videos. I suppose that we could "train them early" in schools so that children can get used to what some believe comes naturally, although somehow I doubt that that will ever become a popular addition to the national curriculum, but you never know.
 
'course not. safer just to keep eating and feel smug.
It's amazing how a little cognitive dissonance can turn a short and concise statement that relates directly to a point so recently posted into incoherent nonsense.

Amazing.
lol, lbj's "phone a friend" shows up right on cue. It is indeed incoherent nonsense accusations, he appears to have run out of ideas, and so do you, adding nothing of any value to the thread just cowardly digs.
 
Nature vs nurture. Indeed some people have been brought up with that kind of thing and don't feel at all squeamish at all and some of the hunting psychos love that shit. A substantial (an growing) number of compassionate and civilised people don't much care for blood and guts and are repulsed by it. Which explains why youtube have warnings on those types of videos. I suppose that we could "train them early" in schools so that children can get used to what some believe comes naturally, although somehow I doubt that that will ever become a popular addition to the national curriculum, but you never know.
It does suggest, though, that the idea that if people were closer to the "animal/death/blood" bit of the process, they wouldn't eat meat - is fallacious.
 
(((Chinese civilisation)))
Yes, and?
The chinese heading towards western levels of meat consumption so they are potentially where we were 20 years ago. We are becoming more civilised the growth in the number of vegans (and the fierce backlash from meatheads).
Falsely claiming that to be "racist" is just lame.
 
So will you be freeing any animals from vivisection labs in the near future? Glueing up any locks? Smashing any windows? Any acetone on vehicles, potatoes up exhaust pipes, slashed tyres, paint on fur / leather products in shops?

If not then as far as I'm concerned you're just an online smugbucket, and any and all digs (cowardly or otherwise) are fully warranted.
 
Apart from my exhortation to direct action instead of online smugness, yeah.
Like I said, nothing of value. Lame accusation without any foundation.

So will you be freeing any animals from vivisection labs in the near future? Glueing up any locks? Smashing any windows? Any acetone on vehicles, potatoes up exhaust pipes, slashed tyres, paint on fur / leather products in shops?
Sounds more like the actions of a psycho nutcase like yourself might get up to.
 
Not sure what bollocks you're yapping on about now tbh. For a start I'm nowhere near "angry" and secondly, in spite of the strong meathead resistance particularly from the more bloodthirsty hardcore ones, there is a steady growth in interest and take up of veganism. If China can somehow manage to wise up and becomes more civilised and stops trying to adopt the SAD crap, we might even reach critical mass by 2045.

Yes those uncivilized Chinese.
 
It does suggest, though, that the idea that if people were closer to the "animal/death/blood" bit of the process, they wouldn't eat meat - is fallacious.
...and yet there are very examples of that very thing happening. People who were "close to the action" have stopped notable examples being Howard Lyman, John Robbins and Phillip Wollen. Like I said we can put this to the test by putting children in touch with their true meat eating nature and see how it goes.
 
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