Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?

[existentialist]

I've been a vegetarian for 30 years and am one of the most mellow people on here so take that back you roaring great fucking cunt.

 

[Toast Rider]

Well, I'm a lifelong vegetarian (well, ever since I stopped being conned by my mum into eating covert meat and bullied by the dinnerladies into eating blatant meat), and I'm nowhere nearer liking Quorn than I was the first time I encountered the vile slime.

Now, lentils...that's a completely different matter.

Eating lentils is like eating sand.

And not the nice kind

 

[existentialist]

Eating lentils is like eating sand.

And not the nice kind

I shall have to agree to differ. I like a nice lentil, me.

 

[8ball]

Eating lentils is like eating sand.

 

[NoXion]

Serial attention-seekers and animal-killing hypocrites PETA have decided that they don't like the vegan "Impossible Burger": OPINION: PETA's Attack On Impossible Foods Is A Double Standard

If they hate it, then that just makes me want to try it even more. This is a perfect example of why I think this kind of outspoken veganism is akin to religion, because along with the aforementioned hypocrisy (a stock-in-trade of priests throughout all of space-time), is the insistence that people wear hair shirts for their own spiritual good. Fuuuck that.

 

[8ball]

Serial attention-seekers and animal-killing hypocrites...

I thought that was a post by a certain Welsh oasis of dragon-based calmness when I read those starting words.

 

[8ball]

Am I right in thinking that PETA threw a wobbly because a company fed a meat-free burger to a rat?

 

[Toast Rider]

Am I right in thinking that PETA threw a wobbly ?

Oh yes

 

[Teaboy]

Eating lentils is like eating sand.

And not the nice kind

I see whats happened here, you appear to be eating them straight from the packet. Try cooking them in boiling water.

 

[cupid_stunt]

 

[8ball]

Oh yes

On further reading, it seems like the burger people killed 188 rats during the testing, which does feel a little excessive.
I bet that's more than get electrocuted by the factory rat traps in an entire week!

 

[existentialist]

On further reading, it seems like the burger people killed 188 rats during the testing, which does feel a little excessive.
I bet that's more than get electrocuted by the factory rat traps in an entire week!

What's PETA's position on rat and mouse traps?

 

[Toast Rider]

I see whats happened here, you appear to be eating them straight from the packet. Try cooking them in boiling water.

I have no intention of ever eating food like that again

 

[existentialist]

I have no intention of ever eating food like that again

It is possible to do terrible things to lentils, but it's also possible to use them to make delicious food. But, well, if you've definitely foresworn the lentil, it just means there's all the more for the rest of us, so you won't hear me complaining

 

[Teaboy]

I have no intention of ever eating food like that again

Ah well, I reckon I could win you over. Puy lentils appear on many of the great dishes from the classics.

Your loss though I guess.

 

[NoXion]

Lentils are OK I guess. Like beans and chickpeas, there's a bit more to them than stuff like rice, making them good for bulking out dishes. There was this orangey-red lentil soup/stew kind of thing that my mum used to make which I liked, I should try looking up the recipe for that one since it could make a good starter, or possibly a snack if it can be made quickly or stored easily.

Needs the addition of something fatty though, so I'd probably end up adding cream or something like that.

Fuck, I should have known it was a bad idea to talk about food while broke and hungry. Damn.

 

[gentlegreen]

Ah well, I reckon I could win you over. Puy lentils appear on many of the great dishes from the classics.
Your loss though I guess.

In France they would probably boil them up with spicy sausage or somesuch ...

 

[gentlegreen]

I rarely have a "focus" in my meals.
Whenever I do, it means I'm going to consume far too many calories - rarely do a pack of four spicy beanburgers or six Cauldron sausages last me for more than one meal - and often there is a large amount of mashed spuds to go with them - the kilo of frozen peas is possibly healthful - though not as much as the broccoli they displace.

 

[cupid_stunt]

It is possible to do terrible things to lentils

It's time for meat eaters to unite & stop terrible things happening to lentils.

 

[killer b]

I'm a bit baffled by the idea that lentils can be in any way compared to sand, even uncooked. Are you sure they were lentils?

 

[Teaboy]

In France they would probably boil them up with spicy sausage or somesuch ...

Not necessarily, often just simmered in a simple court bouillon.

I'm a bit baffled by the idea that lentils can be in any way compared to sand, even uncooked. Are you sure they were lentils?

It's bizarre isn't it? Then again I remember comparing cous cous to eating sand when I first tried it. I must have been around 11 mind.

 

[AnnaKarpik]

And in other news, rice paddies give off methane. Who knew?

 

[PaoloSanchez]

They've had another item on vegan meat substitutes on You and Yours today. Every time they cover that, the presenter feels compelled to read out a response from some listener along the lines of "Why have something tasting like meat when vegans/veggies don't like meat". Haven't these people ever heard of people not eating meat for ethical reasons ?

There are a lot of noobs around who know very little about what goes on in the vegan domain and as a result make many assumptions based on ignorance. "If vegans hate meat so much, why do they always try to make their food taste like meat". Not heard that one before.

I think part of the problem is to do with the fact that many people believe that vegan is simply a diet and it's just about food, when it's much more than that.

I don't eat much meat these days, but occasionally I still tuck into some critter because I love the taste of it. I'd go full veggy if there was a meat substitute which actually tastes good.

There's plenty of alternatives and I'm sure you could find plenty of foods/recipes that taste very good with just a bit of effort.
"I had some vegan food once and it tasted like shit"...not heard that one before either.

Sure we live in a predominantly non-vegan world so it's a lot easier and more convenient to find non-vegan food without having to even think about it. Those that put a high value on ethics above taste preference will be motivated to find tasty "cruelty free" food and vote with their pounds/dollars/sheckles. It really isn't that hard to do, and it's a hell of a lot easier nowadays with the social media support system and plenty of ideas and recipes available online. There's not really a good enough excuse not to try imo, although some folk go out of their way to find some.

 

[Spymaster]

99% of vegans eat meat when they think no one is looking.

 

[mojo pixy]

No be reasonable, only about half do that.

 

[existentialist]

99% of vegans eat meat when they think no one is looking.

APOSTASY!

 

[Toast Rider]

is it common for vegans to call people that eat meat 'carnists'?

Because I've been called that a lot online and it's a fairly ridiculous word IMO

 

[andysays]

is it common for vegans to call people that eat meat 'carnists'?

Because I've been called that a lot online and it's a fairly ridiculous word IMO

Another example of carnist fragility

 

[Toast Rider]

Another example of carnist fragility

fragile like your iron intake?

 

[8ball]

Another example of carnist fragility

And a counter-example.