Do angry vegans turn you against going vegan?
- Thread starter Watermelon Man
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i didn't say they did. I asked you what they were doing. That was not a loaded question
I have no idea who 'they' are, if you are not involved.
So if you had nothing to do with it and can't tell us anymore about what they were doing or have to say, what was the point of posting it?
So if you had nothing to do with it and can't tell us anymore about what they were doing or have to say, what was the point of posting it?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
the link is to a page of videos. a link YOU posted you dumb cunt.follow the link to whoever posted the video
and
I'm not doing your work for you so take your shitty attitude and shove it up your arse. Patronsing prick.
Don't bother responding, you're blocked.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Wells has put himself on ignore. Marvellous.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
awww diddums throwing your toys about
no need for the abuse either, abuse then block, pathetic coward
"If he comes in I will convey the message from the collective that until his bullying behaviour is amended for a protracted amount of time he will not be welcome"
Thanks Hydra Books, at least staff there give a shit that the person who (co) created the space now engages in online harassment.
PaoloSanchez
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Er...obviously? Not really. Pets are typically loved and well cared for by their companions and not usually abused, beaten, slaughtered or eaten, some or all of those things applying to farm animal and human slaves.
#YetMoreTediousWhatAbouttery
PaoloSanchez
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Well different things appeal to different people. There's no "one size fits all". It is normal for people to react negatively to information which challenges core sacred cow beliefs, and may prefer what would appear to them to be more safer and "non-threatening" points of discussion. "Just give me recipies and don't mention ethics or morals."
Well, sorry sir, but NO CAN DO. As far as I'm concerned ethics and morals are an integral part of the vegan universe and I'm not going to avoid the subject just because hearing "the truth" makes some people a bit uncomfortable.
It's rather amusing that there are apparently so many folk who don't much care for veganism and claim to have no interest in it, and yet so many have invested time and effort in this thread and out in the real world (as I have experienced) to have a pop. I can understand vegans putting in a shift more out of necessity, with them being massively outnumbered, however the intensity of the backlash is another indication that the message is getting through and the animal eaters are worried.
Anyway, continuing on the morals track, here's a rather good synopsis of the ethics of killing animals for food, which some believe to be justifiable killing and have no problem with...
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Nah, you’re right - not the best example of tailoring the post to the audience on my part.
PaoloSanchez
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Do militant angry carnists turn you against going carnist? ...
PaoloSanchez
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Well, not quite the same tbh. Given our supposed meat eating heritage, there really shouldn't be a reason to be squeamish about seeing dead animals with all their blood, guts and brains hanging out and for genuine meatheads should be a cause for salivation.And why don't funeral parlours have human corpses displayed in their windows? Why are they trying to hide what their industry is really about, eh?
The fact that so many people really don't like seeing or smelling that shit, coupled with the many well documented negatives associated with eating meat is what makes such a strong case for veganism, imo.
PaoloSanchez
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PaoloSanchez
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
Well done, you spotted the 'dog' angle.
Would have been easy to say something relevant on that point.
veganomics
Active Member
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
PaoloSanchez
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"Would you eat rabbit? Even those who regularly consume meat from chickens, sheep and pigs will often balk at the thought of eating a cuddly little bunny rabbit. But what’s the difference? Why do we see some animals as furry friends and others as fair game to chop up and eat? With the Winter Olympics turning attention towards South Korea, dog meat has been put on the media menu. The west has gone into shock mode. They eat dogs? They must be mad!
But they do. Some of the same breeds we consider man’s best friend in England – labradors, beagles, chihuahuas – are eaten in South Korea. More than 30 million dogs are slaughtered each year for the Asian market and served up in dishes like dog salad and dog stew. As a vegan, this appals me. But no more than I'm appalled by people eating chickens and cows. Is there really such a difference? I sense some hypocrisy in the outrage, and perhaps a little dollop of racism (or at least xenophobia) on the side."
Right on the money.
Opera Buffa
griddling
I had rabbit in Malta. Tastes like chewy pork.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Koreans eat dogs? Who knew? The shock. The outrage!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Also, people 'often balk' at eating rabbit? Really? What complete bollocks.
Yossarian
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How often do you see rabbit on a menu? Most people think of rabbits more as pets than meat and don't eat them.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
You don't see it on the menu much, true. But loads of traditional British recipes involve rabbit. That strikes me as an evidence-free assertion.
andysays
Love and solidarity
I think that article would be better suited to the Why the Guardian is shit thread, TBH.
The idea that "The west has gone into shock mode" is utter nonsense, and the final bit of PaoloSanchez's quote
is sanctimonious holier-than-thou shit equally typical of smug Guardianistas and many angry vegans
PaoloSanchez
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Except if you wish to justify eating animals. Perhaps Korean expats should start a publicity campaign to make dog meat more popular.
...and the expat French open up an equine burger outlet. I'm sure both of those emerging meat markets can be popularised with a slick creative media campaign and a bit of lobbying.
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