Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots
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tony.c
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Anti-lockdown protesters were out again in Liverpool on Saturday. Another 15 arrested.
15 arrests as anti lockdown protesters march through city centre
www.independent.co.uk
15 arrests as anti lockdown protesters march through city centre
15 arrested by police in another anti-lockdown protest in Liverpool
16 were arrested in a similar march in the city against coronavirus restrictions last week
www.independent.co.uk
tony.c
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"This is like 1930s Germany. I guess you are just following orders."
12 arrested in Basildon.
12 arrested in Basildon.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
£17K and counting:
www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk
She’s back! Quinn Blakey hair salon open again during lockdown totalling in £17,000 fines for ‘Magna Carta’ hairdresser
A hair salon in West Yorkshire has now been fined four times by Kirklees Council for staying open during lockdown, totalling £17,000.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
£17K and counting:
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She’s back! Quinn Blakey hair salon open again during lockdown totalling in £17,000 fines for ‘Magna Carta’ hairdresser
A hair salon in West Yorkshire has now been fined four times by Kirklees Council for staying open during lockdown, totalling £17,000.
£27k now.
Covid-19: Bradford salon fined £17,000 for lockdown opening
Sinead Quinn opened Quinn Blakey Hairdressers in Oakenshaw in breach of government restrictions.
www.bbc.co.uk
FridgeMagnet
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Tbh I am uncomfortable with councils just adding on massive fines as long as they see fit. At some point the courts have to get involved so that it's on some sort of proper basis.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
They will when enough time has passed for her to have formally missed payments. Then there'll be a summons and a magistrate will decide whether she should pay the full amount and then there'll be the appeal afterwards. She probably won't pay all of it. But every time she proclaims fotler bullshit she'll be paying another 10% I reckon.
Raheem
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I'm not sure exactly how it works in terms of procedure, but if she is staying open taking income, the fines surely need to keep up with her to be a deterrent (in principle, although I'm guessing £27K is probably overkill for three weeks).
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
They should do it like in the old days and board it up with the occupants inside.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
When the covid fixed penalty fines were introduced, they were made available for councils to use, so I can't see a problem.
She's breaking the law, she knows what the penalties are, so fuck her TBH.
She clearly thinks she's not guilty so she should really get her chance to argue that in a court or something. The constant adding of fines without any recourse to a defence does seems a bit dodgy regardless of how much of a knob she is.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Err, we're in the middle of a pandemic, strict laws are in place, backed by strict fines, she knows that, but thinks the law doesn't apply to her because she got legal advice from some fucking facebook post she's read, she's a fucking idiot.
To stop the fines being issued all she has to do is close the business, it's all very simple. Or, go to court to get a ruling to overturn the law, which of course wouldn't happen,
Otherwise, she'll get her time in court when she's summoned for non-payment of fines, whereupon I hope they bankrupt the twat.
Personally I think they should have included a clause in the law to allow the authorities to get a High Court writ to closedown these twats, break that & they would be arrested for contempt of court, and heading to prison if they continued with their fuckwitty.
Other counties haven't pussyfooted around like the UK, when it comes to enforcement of covid laws.
Sure, she's a toxic prick. That doesn't change the fact that just piling up the level of fine doesn't seem to be doing anything. You yourself made a post about the £10k fines not working. Just adding more and more to the debt without getting her into a court where she can argue her case and lose doesn't seem like the best way to go about things.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
As I said, the failure has been not turning it into an arrestable offence for contempt of court, the council can only play the cards they have been given.
Fozzie Bear
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FWIW it looks like there is an appeal process against the fines:
www.legislation.gov.uk
But if you think Magna Carta takes precedent you won’t use that.
Coronavirus Act 2020
An Act to make provision in connection with coronavirus; and for connected purposes.
But if you think Magna Carta takes precedent you won’t use that.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
This decade, anywayMagna Carta fines would only be pennies
which with compound interest would be more than the UK earns in a decade.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
UK Man Who Blames Jews For COVID-19 Wears Swastika To Court
A JUDGE at the Old Bailey in London ordered a man accused of stirring up racial hatred out of his courtroom this week after he noticed the accused was
www.patheos.com
Well well, there's a fucking surprise
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FridgeMagnet
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Fozzie Bear
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Looks like local councils will be given powers to forcibly close businesses that don't comply:
COVID-19 Winter Plan - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
Should be interesting.
COVID-19 Winter Plan - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
Should be interesting.
Southlondon
The river's there for a reason
A fixed penalty notice is not a fine it’s an opportunity to pay a fixed amount (reduced if paid promptly), and thus avoid going to court and receiving a criminal record, costs and probably an increased amount to pay as a fine. If she thinks she has a case, although it seems pretty cut and dry to me, it’s her prerogative to do so. If the courts rule in her favour she won’t have to pay the FPN and I’d it was incorrectly issued she’d be able to claim back costs. The council officers down this way seem to be issuing them as a last resort after educating the person first so they have ample opportunity not to stop being antisocial arseholes before any FPN is issued as a last resort
prunus
Tick tock.
Is it though? I think certainly some examples of excessive attention to detail would qualify as pedantry, not all would - and additionally there are plenty of examples of pedantry that aren’t focussed on detail but rather precision (which can be at a description level significantly higher than detail). I’m not sure the above definitional criterion is either necessary or sufficient on its own.
bimble
floofy
wtf. That's a surprisingly err.. traditional choice of adornment isn't it.UK Man Who Blames Jews For COVID-19 Wears Swastika To Court
A JUDGE at the Old Bailey in London ordered a man accused of stirring up racial hatred out of his courtroom this week after he noticed the accused was
Well well, there's a fucking surprise
Does anyone know what crime he's accused of when it says 'faces seven charges of publishing, distributing and possessing anti-Semitic coronavirus hoax material on the Internet.'?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Inciting hatred maybe? Or creating a public order offence?
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Presumably incitement to racial hatred - it does say "accused of stirring up racial hatred" in the title.
en.wikipedia.org
Incitement to ethnic or racial hatred - Wikipedia
Tattoo shop raided again as Aron Walton confronts officers
"That warrant there has no wet signature from a judge"
Mr Walton's footage shows him citing the Magna Carta while accusing a council officer of "high treason, for which you will stand trial before a jury of the people, and which still carries the gallows".
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
How an anti-lockdown 'truthpaper' bypasses online factcheckers
Self-published newspaper uses Facebook and Twitter to recruit volunteers and increase reach
So, first up against the wall.
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