Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[Pickman's model]

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not surprised i haven't seen them, they look like a device for holding the head in place

 

[two sheds]

looks more like a visor than a mask, and wouldn't it steam up?

 

[tony.c]

not surprised i haven't seen them, they look like a device for holding the head in place

Other clear masks are available.

Coronavirus: Call for clear face masks to be 'the norm'

Transparent masks allow deaf people to communicate - but supplies are short where they are most needed.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Pickman's model]

Other clear masks are available.

Coronavirus: Call for clear face masks to be 'the norm'

Transparent masks allow deaf people to communicate - but supplies are short where they are most needed.

www.bbc.co.uk

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i hope they eliminate the difficulties. but these masks ^ make the wearer look like the joker.

 

[platinumsage]

wrong again. my reputation for pedantry is based on activity from many years ago, and although hard won that reputation is by no means any longer deserved, not when there are many other greater pedants than i posting here such as the recently arrived platinumsage whose pedantry extends to areas i would never consider going.

I find it hard to believe that people here consider you a pedant. They only aspect of annoying pedanting that you seem to excel at is never admitting that you were wrong.

 

[Pickman's model]

I find it hard to believe that people here consider you a pedant. They only aspect of annoying pedanting that you seem to excel at is never admitting that you were wrong.

that's not pedantry, pedantry is excessive attention to detail.

 

[platinumsage]

that's not pedantry, pedantry is excessive attention to detail.

But it is “annoying pedanting” which is what I actually said.

 

[Pickman's model]

But it is “annoying pedanting” which is what I actually said.

no, it isn't. it is perhaps annoying. but it is not 'pedanting'.

 

[klang]

there's people who know rather more than i do about pretty much every subject here.

 

[belboid]

I find it hard to believe that people here consider you a pedant. They only aspect of annoying pedanting that you seem to excel at is never admitting that you were wrong.

Pedantry, there’s no such word as pedanting.

 

[ddraig]

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Saw security in sainsbury's wearing one of these

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It’s really interesting to see the way this shit is working elsewhere in the world. It’s got nil traction in some places, while in others it’s heavy with the local concerns (e.g. the Australian version has the “China makes fake virus” stuff turned up much higher).

It's pretty driven by the mainstream imo, which they'd obviously deny but seems clear. So for instance both the US and AU have had a lot of anti-China rhetoric in the media and from politicians, but we haven't really had so much here - but there's been a lot of anti-Muslim stuff here around the virus, "muslims are spreading it and the police don't do anything", because that is a mainstream prejudice here.

 

[Dogsauce]

Is there any reason for someone not to wear a visor if a mask is a problem? I’ve seen a few people with them including someone at work. Can’t think why places couldn’t insist on mask or visors only.

 

[elbows]

Is there any reason for someone not to wear a visor if a mask is a problem? I’ve seen a few people with them including someone at work. Can’t think why places couldn’t insist on mask or visors only.

Visors are mostly supposed to be for eye protection, they do not replace masks.

A friend of a friend of my mothers apparently got asked to leave ASDA recently as a result of thinking a visor would be acceptable instead of a mask.

 

[two sheds]

There's also the speech-to-text app that has been mentioned on here.

 

[souljacker]

Visors are mostly supposed to be for eye protection, they do not replace masks.

A friend of a friend of my mothers apparently got asked to leave ASDA recently as a result of thinking a visor would be acceptable instead of a mask.

That's odd. Quite a few of the workers at my local supermarket wear visors. I know they don't give full protection but I'm surprised they would ask someone to leave.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

If someone at the shop tells me they're hard of hearing, we go outside and take our masks off.
Obviously this doesn't work in

Is there any reason for someone not to wear a visor if a mask is a problem? I’ve seen a few people with them including someone at work. Can’t think why places couldn’t insist on mask or visors only.

As elbows says, visors are no good. The aerosols easily migrate out of the sides and the bottom of the shield. They’re pretty good at protecting the wearer though.

Like the masks with a valve : pretty good for the person wearing it, worse than useless for those on the outside because the vent directs a single concentrated plume of air. I always step away from the valve side and tell them why.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

That's odd. Quite a few of the workers at my local supermarket wear visors. I know they don't give full protection but I'm surprised they would ask someone to leave.

There’s a lot of misunderstanding around all this stuff. Like the masks with valve thing.

There’s needs to be far more and much better information dissemination about these details, including how to facilitate communication for those who need help (English as a second language can make talking with a mask really tricky too), how to be more expressive with hands, eyebrows etc. Even just how to I wear the mask properly

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Scroll down til you pass the photo to find some pertinent information:

How diseases spread when we talk and sing

Tiny droplets of liquid – aerosols – are emitted from our mouths when we talk, shout and sing, carrying viruses and bacteria with them.

www.bbc.com

 

[Steel Icarus]

that's not pedantry, pedantry is excessive attention to detail.

This is my favourite post of the year so far on urban, especially as it's not entirely right

 

[Orang Utan]

Is there any reason for someone not to wear a visor if a mask is a problem? I’ve seen a few people with them including someone at work. Can’t think why places couldn’t insist on mask or visors only.

PTSD

 

[retribution]

Argh I thought I would attempt to correct an...acquaintance on Facebook who has been dragged into some sort of "socialists against lockdown" standpoint. He's one of the "the first peak happened before lockdown began/deaths from other diseases are up" brigade. Urbs: help me educate our comrade: good sources to demonstrate that lockdown saved lives? I can't believe i'm having to ask for that

 

[editor]

I can't work out if this is real or not

 

[killer b]

Argh I thought I would attempt to correct an...acquaintance on Facebook who has been dragged into some sort of "socialists against lockdown" standpoint. He's one of the "the first peak happened before lockdown began/deaths from other diseases are up" brigade. Urbs: help me educate our comrade: good sources to demonstrate that lockdown saved lives? I can't believe i'm having to ask for that

don't waste your time is my suggestion. might as well shout at the sea.

 

[Pickman's model]

I can't work out if this is real or not

nothing is real any more

 

[souljacker]

I can't work out if this is real or not

It's very funny, that's for sure.

 

[two sheds]

I think it's accurate even if not real

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

I can't work out if this is real or not

2nd from left is real
But seem to have got himself banned from youtube

 

[FridgeMagnet]

In Germany, this one, but a security guard apparently quits when a speaker at a covid-denier rally compares herself to Sophie Scholl. The guy is escorted off and the speaker then throws her stuff on the floor and runs off the stage upset, which I'm not convinced that Sophie Scholl would have done.

 

[editor]

This is a great read:

In brief, the six principal plays in the denialist playbook are:

1. Doubt the Science
2. Question Scientists’ Motives and Integrity
3. Magnify Disagreements among Scientists and Cite Gadflies as Authorities
4. Exaggerate Potential Harm
5. Appeal to Personal Freedom
6. Reject Whatever Would Repudiate A Key Philosophy

The Denialist Playbook

On vaccines, evolution, and more, rejection of science has followed a familiar pattern

www.scientificamerican.com