The thing is, I have a certain sympathy for my sisters’ position. Her distrust of vaccines and doctors hasn’t come out of nowhere, but has been bolstered by recent conspirononsense on social media, which makes me less sympathetic.i actively dislike anti vaxxers, i have to say. i have tried to think/feel my way out of this, and i can't. i can normally manage this with all sorts of shades of the political spectrum. Not with that mob, though. it's the arrogance of their position that i can't get round.
yes, it's probably more my problem than there's. i need to activate my compassion and understanding brain matter more when i encounter them.The thing is, I have a certain sympathy for my sisters’ position. Her distrust of vaccines and doctors hasn’t come out of nowhere, but has been bolstered by recent conspirononsence on social media, which makes me less sympathetic.
She attributes her bout of CFS/glandular fever to vaccines she received when she visited Zanzibar/Tanzania about twenty years ago. And as a PoC, she has a legitimate mistrust of public health initiatives that have historically been foisted upon ethnic minorities.
its the "hang on, you've actually know more than all of the top experts, the top unis, the researchers, etc. you know more than them?" which i just cannot quite see through. it's that almost mind bending level of hubris that makes me dislike. but we are all flawed and irrational, i guess. that's teh route of compassion i suppose.
the scary thing is that in many cases it is literally that, undeconstructed. literally that. actually gives me the creeps tbh
Now they are trying to persuade everyone that the Blitz didn't happen. Instead it was a false-flag operation with the RAF doing the bombing so the interests of the Government and big housebuilders could be served by getting rid of "quality" English housing and replacing it with substandard accommodation for the new generations of immigrants to occupy.
I think it’s more that they think the scientists are in on it for their own gain, rather than that they don’t know the truthits the "hang on, you've actually know more than all of the top experts, the top unis, the researchers, etc. you know more than them?" which i just cannot quite see through. it's that almost mind bending level of hubris that makes me dislike. but we are all flawed and irrational, i guess. that's teh route of compassion i suppose.
Oh I dunno. They seem to have their own websites with alternative facts that they point at.I think it’s more that they think the scientists are in on it for their own gain, rather than that they don’t know the truth
One I frequently come across seems to have laid-off the vaccine-bashing for a while.
Now they are trying to persuade everyone that the Blitz didn't happen. Instead it was a false-flag operation with the RAF doing the bombing so the interests of the Government and big housebuilders could be served by getting rid of "quality" English housing and replacing it with substandard accommodation for the new generations of immigrants to occupy.
Oh I dunno. They seem to have their own websites with alternative facts that they point at.
I think it’s more that they think the scientists are in on it for their own gain, rather than that they don’t know the truth
That’s fucking genius in its outstanding levels of ignorance and stupidity. Belief in things like that feels like it’s getting closer and closer to actual psychosis.
with something so "micro" and specialised as fucking virology i will let teh other scientists reevaluate and ask teh right questions.Science itself is also not a monolith and requires a degree of open-mindedness and skepticism, and the need to continually reevaluate and ask the right questions of evidence and theories. And it does have some issues, as shown by things like the replication crisis ( Replication crisis - Wikipedia ) And as some have recently mentioned here, there are some reasons why trust in 'the establishment', the mainstream, including medical and scientific branches, is low, and historical reasons why the extent of this loss of trust varies between different groups.
But obviously two wrong dont make a right, and the crude, sloppy, biased, oversimplified etc versions of conspiracy theories and 'truth seekers' are poorly placed to uncover meaningful evidence or established a world view that is closer to truth. In most cases its out of the frying pan and into the fire for those that take such a path.
Covid public inquiry evidence is full of stories of establishment failures, but not often the same trees that the conspiracy theorists are barking up when it comes to the pandemic.
It’s a fact that the bombers of the 1940s did not have the range to attack other countries, so all the bombing had to have been false flag. The Germans bombed Germany, the British bombed Britain, and France bombed itself (although it claimed not to have an operational air force). All the members of the bombing crews had shares in building companies, and if you trace the origins of the fortunes of the richest people in Britain you will find that they are all inherited from former members of the Royal Air Force.One I frequently come across seems to have laid-off the vaccine-bashing for a while.
Now they are trying to persuade everyone that the Blitz didn't happen. Instead it was a false-flag operation with the RAF doing the bombing so the interests of the Government and big housebuilders could be served by getting rid of "quality" English housing and replacing it with substandard accommodation for the new generations of immigrants to occupy.
in that area of their thinking it is utterly meglomaniacal if you give it some thought. i am not saying they are all irredimable narcissists, but as stupid cnts cartoon shows, which is an accurate description of reality, there's a kind of monumental arrogance to it.I think many of these guys straddle a very narrow boundary between psychosis and the fringes of reality.
in that area of their thinking it is utterly meglomaniacal if you give it some thought. i am not saying they are all irredimable narcissists, but as stupid cnts cartoon shows, which is an accurate description of reality, there's a kind of monumental arrogance to it.
The trouble with Last Thursdayism is that if you use the Julian Calendar, which is of course the only one true calendar, then Last Thursday may not have happened yet. Maybe.It’s a fact that the bombers of the 1940s did not have the range to attack other countries, so all the bombing had to have been false flag. The Germans bombed Germany, the British bombed Britain, and France bombed itself (although it claimed not to have an operational air force). All the members of the bombing crews had shares in building companies, and if you trace the origins of the fortunes of the richest people in Britain you will find that they are all inherited from former members of the Royal Air Force.
Or so they would have you believe. In fact, the world only came into existence last Thursday.
Last Thursdayism
Last Thursdayism (alternately Last Tuesdayism or Last Wednesdayism) is the idea that the universe was created last Thursday, but with the physical appearance of being billions of years old. It's also a counter to the creationism theory. Under Last Thursdayism, books, fossils, light already on...rationalwiki.org
When the British bombed, the Germans ran for cover. When the Germans bombed, the British ran for cover. When the Americans bombed, everyone ran for coverIt’s a fact that the bombers of the 1940s did not have the range to attack other countries, so all the bombing had to have been false flag. The Germans bombed Germany, the British bombed Britain, and France bombed itself (although it claimed not to have an operational air force).
I think it’s more that they think the scientists are in on it for their own gain, rather than that they don’t know the truth
I actually work at a uni where a vax was made during Covid. It’s just all sorts of ridiculous that that department is under sway by “the deep state”, especially when you have a bunch of other scientists world wide waiting to rip them to shed.The people who think that have no idea. Nobody becomes a scientist for the money. If you wanna make money you go get an MBA instead of a PhD, and network your way into becoming a corpo parasite.
sorry to hear about your sister, must be tough at times. sounds like she is not full wack "plandemic" "trying to enslave/kill us" though. there are of course nuances to anti vax beliefs, like your sister. my posts refer to the infamous "truther" movement (and I think it can be called a movement) who have viewed covid in deeply conspiritual terms since teh start. people might say they are not a movement, too disparate. but i think there's a certain kind of strand of the Trump right who do kind of gather round this horseshit and I do think they are not as meaningless and sparse as some think.The thing is, I have a certain sympathy for my sisters’ position. Her distrust of vaccines and doctors hasn’t come out of nowhere, but has been bolstered by recent conspirononsense on social media, which makes me less sympathetic.
She attributes her bout of CFS/glandular fever to vaccines she received when she visited Zanzibar/Tanzania about twenty years ago. And as a PoC, she has a legitimate mistrust of public health initiatives that have historically been foisted upon ethnic minorities.
an incredible meme on so many levels, one for the history books. so contemporary in the sense that never before has idiocacy and hubris been broadcast so far and so wide by so many people.
Ah. So you are part of the conspiracy. No wonder you support the NWO so vehemently.I actually work at a uni where a vax was made during Covid.