Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[existentialist]

That very well describes a fair amount of people who post to these forums from my experience, and I'd just add generally unpleasant and that they chat a load of absolute shit half the time.

I imagine, by virtue of the fact that you're still here, that there must be SOMETHING about Urban you like and that keeps you here. It's a shame we never get to hear about that bit, and only get to hear about everything (and it does seem like everything) that you see as wrong with the place.

 

[editor]

That very well describes a fair amount of people who post to these forums from my experience, and I'd just add generally unpleasant and that they chat a load of absolute shit half the time.

If you're just going to cluelessly insult people again and again over multiple threads, I'm going to start banning you from those threads. Starting with this one. Please read the FAQ for the clarification of board rules.

 

[Joe Chi Min]

They’re having a meet-up in Brighton today, anyone seen any of the usual train-wreck of footage?

 

[BigMoaner]

Was thinking about this today. What freedoms have we lost through covid? Can anyone name one? Having to wear a mask in hospital? having to book your gym session instead of rocking up (which admittedly does get on my tits)? Okay, so teh economy has tanked, but even that is showing signs of life. So what, mr anti vaxxer, are you exactly complaining about? Doesn't life (a neo liberal dystopia pretty much anyway) look pretty much how it looked before the pandemic?

 

[PR1Berske]

Was thinking about this today. What freedoms have we lost through covid? Can anyone name one? Having to wear a mask in hospital? having to book your gym session instead of rocking up (which admittedly does get on my tits)? Okay, so teh economy has tanked, but even that is showing signs of life. So what, mr anti vaxxer, are you exactly complaining about? Doesn't life (a neo liberal dystopia pretty much anyway) look pretty much how it looked before the pandemic?

It's from the same arena as those right wing nutjobs who claim that there's a "blob" really running the country which just happens to be left wing or "socialist" or similar. The fact that we've had 12 years of Conservative government, an out of control housing market, cruel immigration policies, etc, is beyond them.

The anti-everything types will always see what they want to see.

 

[pogofish]

he fact that we've had 12 years of Conservative government, an out of control housing market, cruel immigration policies, etc, is beyond them.

To these guys, even the Tories are a ruthlessly Communist organisation!

 

[cuppa tee]

I see merit in the "lost, lonely. traumatised, disimpowered" argument, especially disimpowerment - and that probably explains many of those who get radicalised by this horse shit. But I alway see merit in the "arrogant, narcissistic, vain, with an incredibly over-inflated sense of one's own intellectual and knowledge ability" argument too. i know it's all a bit simplistic, but i still think there's a certain almost incompherensive arrogance and hubris to many of them. Too special for lockdowns, to0 logical and all-seeing to believe in the nonesense churned out by scientists at Harvard, Imperial, the NHS, etc.

like this....

 

[BigMoaner]

like this....View attachment 361295

Was that actually done by an anti vaxxer? Can't tell if satire

 

[rubbershoes]

having to book your gym session instead of rocking up (which admittedly does get on my tits)?

Not at my local one. It's just turn up

 

[gentlegreen]

How did Pfizer even employ this idiot ?
Honeytrapped and innacurately sharing commercial secrets on the third date ...

 

[cuppa tee]

Was that actually done by an anti vaxxer? Can't tell if satire

yes...legit pureblood supremacism....but i have seen satire posted as fact in the past.

 

[BigMoaner]

yes...legit pureblood supremacism....

Seriously?

 

[cuppa tee]

Seriously?

plenty more where that come from....

 

[BigMoaner]

These guys huh

 

[Yossarian]

yes...legit pureblood supremacism....but i have seen satire posted as fact in the past.

After "unvaxxed sperm is the next bitcoin" I don't know if it'd even be possible to create satire those clowns would recognize as satire.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

plenty more where that come from....


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I find those "truther" doctors the worst, they make wild announcements, this then gets caught by vulnerable people who get worried and I see them coming to ask questions on facebook groups, latest was some canadian grifter saying "seek vaccine free fathers if you want a child" I mean for fuck sake, get a grip and stop the bullshit, the one in the quoted post has "censored truth teller" tagline somewhere online, offers (paid for) consultation where you can get a referral letter to your own GP (£55 for the consultation, £30 for the referral letter).

 

[BigMoaner]

They're such dickheads, such an embarrassment, that they're not even worth our time here on urban. History will be the judge on these saps.

 

[pogofish]

This seems to be getting them particularly worked-up just now:

U.S. Government Admits ‘5G Radiation Causes COVID-19’ – Stunning Admission

Bombshell new peer-reviewed scientific studies have revealed what many of us knew from the beginning. 5G radiation is not only connected to the Covid-19 pandemic, it actually induces the body to create new viruses and [...]

newspunch.com

Of course the claims turn-out to be based on studies retracted for manipulation:

RETRACTED: 5G Technology and induction of coronavirus in skin cells - PubMed

Ahead of Print article withdrawn by publisher.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And UK ones are getting really worked-up about traffic reduction measures for some reason.

 

[gentlegreen]

Worst paper of 2020? 5G and Coronavirus induction

This paper made my jaw drop: 5G Technology and induction of coronavirus in skin cells – M Fioranelli et al. – J Biol Regul Homeost Agents 2020 Jul 16;34(4). doi: 10.23812/20-269-E-4 [ar…

scienceintegritydigest.com

Much talk of bogus citation mills and likely Russian involvement - but also attempts to debunk the peer-review system and even dadaism ...
The negative comments are amazing.

Massimo Fioranelli appears to be a loony as well as a fraud - seeking credibility for online university.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337157086_A_Black_Hole_at_the_Center_of_Earth_Plays_the_Role_of_the_Biggest_System_of_Telecommunication_for_Connecting_DNAs_Dark_DNAs_and_Molecules_of_Water_on_4N-_Dimensional_Manifold

Sperm teleportation between Massimo Fioranelli and Alireza Sepehri

“Even if we be under force and have to return to Galileo times, theories are going theirselves. […] Describing some subjects for them is similar to speaking of flying with airplane for …

forbetterscience.com

Inside the Bizarre Publishing Ring That Linked 5G to Coronavirus

From black holes at the Earth's center to decapitated quails, a group of scientists—some working for a journal from a major publisher—are prolifically publishing pseudoscience.

www.vice.com

Search Results for “Fioranelli ” – Retraction Watch

Tracking retractions as a window into the scientific process

retractionwatch.com

 

[two sheds]

 

[gentlegreen]

I still don't know if I had measles as a kid - I'd have thought I might have remembered that.
I remember chicken pox, but I was a bit older by then - and shingles at 51 reminded me ...

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I still don't know if I had measles as a kid - I'd have thought I might have remembered that.
I remember chicken pox, but I was a bit older by then - and shingles at 51 reminded me ...

Weren’t you vaccinated against that shit? I thought it didn’t exist anymore in the UK but wouldn’t surprise me if it’s making a comeback.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Weren’t you vaccinated against that shit? I thought it didn’t exist anymore in the UK but wouldn’t surprise me if it’s making a comeback.

It still exists in the UK, although numbers are fairly low, but sadly vaccination is deceasing, because of loons.

 

[gentlegreen]

Weren’t you vaccinated against that shit? I thought it didn’t exist anymore in the UK but wouldn’t surprise me if it’s making a comeback.

I was born in 1960 and the measles vaccine didn't arrive until 1967 - so I only had DTP and polio vaccines...
kalidarkone is younger than me, but I thought they posted that they were given 2 doses when they started nursing ...
I've fallen out with the UK medical system so I hope I don't have to go to my GP for it.

 

[kabbes]

Apparently, I got measles at some point after receiving the first vaccination dose but before receiving the second. And so I never got the second. No idea what any of that means for my health!

 

[pogofish]

TBH, the measles vaccine (pre-MMR version) was the one I had a nasty reaction to - Which apparently left me very ill for some time and with a measles-like rash for some time after. What happened was that after my mother refused permission on the advice of our GP, one of the teachers at my school decided she knew better, filled-out a permission slip on her behalf and queued me-up with the other kids.

Our GP absolutely hit the roof when he found out about it...!

I don't recall ever getting a second dose.

 

[Lurdan]

US rather than UK but since MMS has been discussed on this thread this might as well go here

Drinking Bleach Is Deadly. Why Are Some Americans Still Consuming MMS? - Bloomberg

Their trial is scheduled for later this year, but the Grenons continue to tout MMS from their prison cells via the messaging app Telegram.

Bloomberg has also co-produced a podcast about the MMS saga 'Smoke Screen: Deadly Cure'. First couple of episodes available now.

 

[LDC]

A medical friend of mine has been approached by a few people to do some 'therapeutic blood drawing' which they think helps them with their 'vaccine injury/ME/long Covid'.

I mean obviously they said no as it's a mad mix of self harm, quackery and conspiracy theory. But it's worrying this shit is likely getting done by some people. They seemed outraged they couldn't get it done by the NHS.

 

[gentlegreen]

Why don't they do some good and simply donate blood ?
It's actually reckoned to be of benefit in certain cases - but not this one, obviously ...

 

[LDC]

Why don't they do some good and simply donate blood ?
It's actually reckoned to be of benefit in certain cases - but not this one, obviously ...

Yeah absolutely no idea why they won't do that or hadn't thought of it. They were very specific about the amount they wanted taken though (100mls) so maybe that's why.