sounds like my best mate who i have referenced on this thread many times.I caught up with an old friend who I hadn't seen for a few years a couple of weeks back and went out to breakfast with him. Decent guy, who's had struggles with his mental health over the years, but generally held it down.
He's turned literally into a frothing at the mouth anti-vaxer, doing the demos and all that, explaining that he was mixing with far right shitheads for the common cause of freedom. I don't think lockdown did his head any favours and it came out in this way. He seems quite isolated and it turns out he lost his decent job due to his inability to not be a total twat in work during lockdown and refusing to wear masks or use any control measures, when working in customers buildings.
I explained that generally I tended to trust the overwhelming evidence and experience of the scientific community, whilst still being able to believe that the government were useless, corrupt tossers who valued the profits of Weatherspoons over the lives of 200,000 citizens. We both agreed that it was unlikely we'd change each others minds, so we chatted about old times and old mates who'd died during the last few years.
I won't be rushing to have breakfast again with him, because it still seems to be his primary thing that he talks about, but I wouldn't cut him out of my life either.
Is it fuck. WankerThere's something unhealthy about the obsessiveness displayed in this thread. Covid's over, people. Go outside and enjoy the fresh air.
something unhealthy about the obsessiveness displayed in this thread. Covid's over, people. Go outside and enjoy the fresh air.
You go first, and don't rush back ...There's something unhealthy about the obsessiveness displayed in this thread. Covid's over, people. Go outside and enjoy the fresh air.
There's something unhealthy about the obsessiveness displayed in this thread. Covid's over, people. Go outside and enjoy the fresh air.
Go outside and enjoy the fresh air is fair enough advice.
But, covid isn't over, the paramedics called to my mother recently said they were dealing with lots of covid call-outs again, the doctors & nurses looking after her have told me they have a growing number of covid cases in the hospital again, thankfully less deaths, and likewise staff off sick with it.
At least those of us vaccinated are likely to have fairly mild illness if we are unlucky enough to catch it, the anti-vaxxers are far more likely to get it bad, and even die from it, so there's every reason to attack them for spreading their misinformation.
I guess the point I was clumsily making is that this thread one that is clearly having a toxic effect on some peoples' emotional health.
I'm currently on day 12, still testing positive, and bringing up gunk. It don't feel very over to meThere's something unhealthy about the obsessiveness displayed in this thread. Covid's over, people. Go outside and enjoy the fresh air.
There are 50 Covid patients in the hospital I work at. It's not over.There's something unhealthy about the obsessiveness displayed in this thread. Covid's over, people. Go outside and enjoy the fresh air.
At least those of us vaccinated are likely to have fairly mild illness if we are unlucky enough to catch it, the anti-vaxxers are far more likely to get it bad, and even die from it, so there's every reason to attack them for spreading their misinformation.
There was an over-representation of persons who were not fully vaccinated, with 28% of COVID-19 deaths occurring in persons who were not fully vaccinated in the first half of 2022, even though only about 5% of the eligible population were not fully vaccinated in mid-March 2022.
I interact less and less with antivaxers - mostly I just iggy them and never see them again.That's fair enough. I apologise for the terseness of my initial comment, and the implication that the virus is not still out there causing heartache to many people.
I guess the point I was clumsily making is that this thread one that is clearly having a toxic effect on some peoples' emotional health. Going back and forth on social media with obsessive antivaxxers creates a sort of symbiotic relationship between those people and the anti-antivaxxers. Both sides are winding each other up, losing friends and family whilst the rest of the world continues on with their lives as before the pandemic.
Anyway, that's just my two pennies, and I didn't want to cause offence so I will leave it at that.
I interact less and less with antivaxers - mostly I just iggy them and never see them again.
So far as I know I have none in my family - even though the whole generation above me are lick-spittle Tories, they at least remember polio et al ...
I've moved on and I'm back to trying to lead by example when it comes to making noises about the trashing of the planet... at 62 I won't be supergluing myself to the M32 ...
I tend to iggy straight-forward climate deniers too - be they alt-right twats or simply incapable of learning....
I have come to realise recently with the energy crisis that even those with a good understanding of other aspects of the world - often with the higher education I lack, are simply incapable of engaging with the very basic science they were taught when they were 11 - so I suppose inability to grasp the basics of what a virus is and how vaccines work was only to be expected ... I think my own interest in virology has been sated for now - but perhaps encountering the conspiracies to a certain extent is useful in forcing me to learn a little bit more here and there - just as creationism made me learn a bit more about evolution (and, incidentally, religion) - which of course put me in a good place when covid came along..
For me the greatest disappointment is that so many people are not interested to learn the basics of how things actually work ...
Don't actually disagree with this. I was pretty obsessively posting on this thread for months, mainly because I was transfixed by what happened to my mate so I was delving into the communities and reporting back.That's fair enough. I apologise for the terseness of my initial comment, and the implication that the virus is not still out there causing heartache to many people.
I guess the point I was clumsily making is that this thread one that is clearly having a toxic effect on some peoples' emotional health. Going back and forth on social media with obsessive antivaxxers creates a sort of symbiotic relationship between those people and the anti-antivaxxers. Both sides are winding each other up, losing friends and family whilst the rest of the world continues on with their lives as before the pandemic.
Anyway, that's just my two pennies, and I didn't want to cause offence so I will leave it at that.
This is true too - i literally only think of covid when alerted to this thread.Thing is it isnt this thread that is having a toxic effect. The thread is just a reflection that strongly held views are out there and cause inevitable consternation and woe. Depending on how someone engages with that reality, threads like this can actually help people to let off steam and come to terms with the messy reality. Its not unhealthy to mourn the loss of friendships caused by some peoples beliefs having driven a wedge through past relationships. And people are only dedicating a tiny fraction of their existence to engaging with threads like this one, posting on it doesnt indicate an unhealthy obsession with the topic.
Evolution is going backwards...
Devolution.Evolution is going backwards...
I'll keep an eye out for them at our hospital. They'll be destroyed on sight.
'Useless against any viruses' and simultaneously the cause of bacterial lung infections - those are some mad crazy powerful deep state bioweapons