Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[BigMoaner]

And at another centre, they arrested the police



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Serious question - does anyone else find that one of the strangest things they've seen humans do? Genocide. Trying to arrest the police. Magical Crime Codes. Magic words. Nuremburg codes. Ordinary wellness mum type saying that Chris Copper is complicit in mass genocide?

It honestly leaves me speachless. Is it all unprecidented? What the actual fuck?

 

[BigMoaner]

it's a genuine question - is it just me who is just completly WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK when you see them speaking

 

[BigMoaner]

the complete and utter total lack of intellectual humility is amazing. the lack of doubt.

 

[gentlegreen]

It's cargo cult-ism - whether they use the symbols of science or law...
None of them understand the shit they claim to believe - I would guess a lot of them are too scared to admit that in public ...

And then you get the ostensibly intelligent ones - like the Oxbridge educated lawyer who thought it OK to step way out of his area ...

 

[BigMoaner]

None of them understand the shit they claim to believe - I would guess a lot of them are too scared to admit that in public ...

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mate this is where i think you might be wrong - they really do think they understand these things. they really do think they can arrest a police officer.

 

[BigMoaner]

i won't prattle on but the Decoding the Guru's Joe - 200 million downloads a month - Rogan episodes are truly terrifying, if you like that sort of thing lol.

 

[gentlegreen]

mate this is where i think you might be wrong - they really do think they understand these things. they really do think they can arrest a police officer.

But others have TOLD them that's what the bollocks means ...

 

[BigMoaner]

But others have TOLD them that's what the bollocks means ...

of course. it's not like they've sat in teh british library for decades studying this stuff. they've read a few articles been sent to them and suddenly magic powers. again it's that lack of humility, astonishing. i've never seen hubris like it in my life time in the discourse. i guess it's always been there but the pandemic was the stick that prodded it into sight.

 

[BigMoaner]

the way he so formally reads out the magic words to teh copper

 

[BigMoaner]

where was he gonna take him after he nicked him??

that's a 9/10 gentlegreen.

 

[gentlegreen]

the way he so formally reads out the magic words to teh copper

I know I spend far too much time in the company of (right wing) Americans online, but on my walk in the park earlier it struck me the patience of those police reminded me that there are good things still about living in the UK - they often seem to behave like social workers ....

 

[klang]

Serious question - does anyone else find that one of the strangest things they've seen humans do? Genocide. Trying to arrest the police. Magical Crime Codes. Magic words. Nuremburg codes. Ordinary wellness mum type saying that Chris Coper is complicit in mass genocide?

It honestly leaves me speachless. Is it all unprecidented? What the actual fuck?

'citizens arrests' have been banged on about by the loons for decades.

 

[klang]

they often seem to behave like social workers ....

...yet they are all bastards.

 

[gentlegreen]

...yet they are all bastards.

Selectively I suppose ...

But orders of magnitudes more predictable than the local cops in the Wild West ..

 

[klang]

'citizens arrests' have been banged on about by the loons for decades.

however, with the seeming rise in loon numbers recently they are def getting more self confident and daring.

 

[klang]

Selectively I suppose ...

But orders of magnitudes more predictable than the local cops in the Wild West ..

tbh if I was a cop I'd much rather police a football riot full of pissed up hools than a vaxx centre and all the loon cunts that come with it.

 

[gentlegreen]

There's probably a handful of idiots who dream up this shit - the projects and the depositions are probably the equivalent of the Trump team's, - probably a few idiots with law degrees, the minions just need to remember a few set phrases ...

 

[BigMoaner]

There's probably a handful of idiots who dream up this shit - the projects and the depositions are probably the equivalent of the Trump team's, - probably a few idiots with law degrees, the minions just need to remember a few set phrases ...

the wellness/"spirituality" world is a massively busy pipe line from waht i can tell.

 

[Dogsauce]

They seem on the same level as those nutty glassy-eyed Christians stood around in a group in the city centre shouting about sodomy. We walk wide because we’re scared that their complete lack of dignity and self-awareness is contagious.

 

[BigMoaner]

I just think it's what the internet "does" to some people. i am less persuaded by teh usual troupe of social and economic explanations. I think a lot of this is just pure alogrithym manifest.

 

[BigMoaner]

becoming the algorithym.

 

[gentlegreen]

I've been posting comedy shite on loons' Facebooks who've forwarded shite about Malone, graphine and Luciferase ... I found myself posting on Gov. Mike Huckabee's page earlier

 

[rubbershoes]

of course. it's not like they've sat in teh british library for decades studying this stuff. they've read a few articles been sent to them and suddenly magic powers. again it's that lack of humility, astonishing. i've never seen hubris like it in my life time in the discourse. i guess it's always been there but the pandemic was the stick that prodded it into sight.

"I think we've all had enough of experts"

This sort of sums it up. People are now free to believe anything they want in the face of all the evidence, because it's just ok to do thst now. Why should the view of any doctor /scientist /expert be more valid than mine? The fact that it's the opinion of almost all doctors that they're going against doesn't seem to trouble them

 

[BigMoaner]

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[NoXion]

I just think it's what the internet "does" to some people. i am less persuaded by teh usual troupe of social and economic explanations. I think a lot of this is just pure alogrithym manifest.

These kind of cranks existed before the internet, and once the internet became more popular, they started congregating on USENET and later on web forums. But the advent of social media, along with the ability of its polarising and concentrating algorithms to create virtual bubble-worlds for people to live in vicariously, has explosively accelerated the ability of cranks to find each other and generate their own networks off the back of social media infrastructure. This created much more of a market for grifters and chancers to make money off these people. And now they're also being weaponised by various governments in an attempt to weaken and destroy the fabric of their enemies' societies.

I have a terrible feeling that this situation is going to get really ugly before substantive action is taken to address it.

 

[spitfire]

I feel sorry for a lot of them, just poor confused fuckers taken in by complete bullshit. i see some of those videos and think that’s someone’s mum accosting hospital staff with utter nonsense, imagine if that was a family member, not ashamed to humiliate themselves on camera because of going down an internet wormhole. It’s kind of tragic.

I did. I still feel sorry for their families and friends but I’ve lost any sympathy for them. They are filed in the same part of my mind as fascists and religious extremists. They are actively causing harm to people and I’ve run out of understanding. I understand where you’re coming from though.

 

[BigMoaner]

the last thing they want is us sheeps sympathy.

 

[BigMoaner]

annoys me sumwhat that the right wing press that has "largely" "most of teh time" been onside, onside meaning "covid is real and vaccinees work" havent kicked the utter shit out of them.

 

[gentlegreen]

annoys me sumwhat that the right wing press that has "largely" "most of teh time" been onside, onside meaning "covid is real and vaccinees work" havent kicked the utter shit out of them.

They're hedging their bets - like all grifters ...

 

[BigMoaner]

These kind of cranks existed before the internet, and once the internet became more popular, they started congregating on USENET and later on web forums. But the advent of social media, along with the ability of its polarising and concentrating algorithms to create virtual bubble-worlds for people to live in vicariously, has explosively accelerated the ability of cranks to find each other and generate their own networks off the back of social media infrastructure. This created much more of a market for grifters and chancers to make money off these people. And now they're also being weaponised by various governments in an attempt to weaken and destroy the fabric of their enemies' societies.

I have a terrible feeling that this situation is going to get really ugly before substantive action is taken to address it.

i still think this all started with trump's "fake news" memes. a turning point. he just used to say to anyone who disagreed with him "that's fake news" and i can remember feeling somethign change. somethign ripple through. it's grim. the people we see in these videos are just the tip of the spear, or tip of the iceburg. this stuff is counted by a better education system, a more equal society, educating children about how teh internet works, how it monitizes attention and emotion. i've already explained to my daughter what a "grifter is" "someone who uses provoking views over and over again so he can pay his mortgage." it's all capitalism once again init.