Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[existentialist]

Isn’t it that the point about Jesus is he only saves you once you’re already dead? Always seemed a bit of a cop-out to me.
What I like about the vaccines is they save you while you’re still alive.

It's the "jam tomorrow" principle of religion.

 

[rubbershoes]

I've heard that our local antivaxxer was on FB wishing "Merry Christmas to all purebloods"

If it looks like a fascist and sounds like a fascist...

 

[8ball]

I've heard that our local antivaxxer was on FB wishing "Merry Christmas to all purebloods"

If it looks like a fascist and sounds like a fascist...

You have to wonder whether that term was picked up by these idiots after being suggested by an exasperated family member.

 

[Dogsauce]

There were a load of ‘youth for freedom’ stickers on the lampposts around by the university here, just saying that and a telegram group url. Took a couple off, but wasn’t 100% sure they were pro Covid, although being on telegram is a strong indicator and the name sounds a bit fashy.

We do get quite a bit of loon graffiti around there, some poor RT victim had done some massive slogans about the Skripal poisoning being an MI5 hoax all over the student Union building a few weeks back.

 

[Orang Utan]

There were a load of ‘youth for freedom’ stickers on the lampposts around by the university here, just saying that and a telegram group url. Took a couple off, but wasn’t 100% sure they were pro Covid, although being on telegram is a strong indicator and the name sounds a bit fashy.

We do get quite a bit of loon graffiti around there, some poor RT victim had done some massive slogans about the Skripal poisoning being an MI5 hoax all over the student Union building a few weeks back.

This in Leeds?

 

[Dogsauce]

This in Leeds?

Nah, Bristol.

 

[gentlegreen]

I noticed that has the highest covid rate in the city ...
I caught the wrong bus back in the summer and had to walk all down Whiteladies to the centre and it was quite a culture shock in terms of how much was going on during a pandemic ...

 

[Dogsauce]

I noticed that has the highest covid rate in the city ...
I caught the wrong bus back in the summer and had to walk all down Whiteladies to the centre and it was quite a culture shock in terms of how much was going on during a pandemic ...

Yes, students were having large picnics/evening drinking sessions in the local park right through the various lockdowns, or queuing outside takeaways in tightly packed groups. Zero solidarity from a significant few.

 

[8ball]

Yes, students were having large picnics/evening drinking sessions in the local park right through the various lockdowns, or queuing outside takeaways in tightly packed groups. Zero solidarity from a significant few.

I’m really not sure what my stance would be right now if I was that age. I’d be careful about any risks re: infecting older folk, but not sure aside from that.

 

[mx wcfc]

I’m really not sure what my stance would be right now if I was that age. I’d be careful about any risks re: infecting older folk, but not sure aside from that.

Yeah, this. I expect I'd be getting to every party I could find.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Nah, Bristol.

I saw that graf too. There was more down the road about Russian interference with US elections being a lie. It was in huge red letters!

 

[8ball]

Yeah, this. I expect I'd be getting to every party I could find.

Not sure I’d be going that far, but it’s hard to gauge how much patience I’d have lost by now.

 

[BigMoaner]

fairly good break down of the grift of Russell brand as he drifts further into the far right and anti vax. a good analysis of how the grift works (often hidden by the hey "i'm just asking questions" angle) these days. and how the grift is radicalising, likely along the lines of the presenters themselves. to think we used to think newspapers were dangerous, to me they didn't even come close to what youtube has turned into.

 

[BigMoaner]

Yes, students were having large picnics/evening drinking sessions in the local park right through the various lockdowns, or queuing outside takeaways in tightly packed groups. Zero solidarity from a significant few.

some were probably balancing it out with overall compliance. keeping me from socialising at that age would have been damaging for me. i was already feeling cut off and isolated. i had no issue with seeing teens breaking the rules occasionally. i would have.

 

[8ball]

fairly good break down of the grift of Russell brand as he drifts further into the far right and anti vax. a good analysis of how the grift works (often hidden by the hey "i'm just asking questions" angle) these days. and how the grift is radicalising, likely along the lines of the presenters themselves. to think we used to think newspapers were dangerous, to me they didn't even come close to what youtube has turned into.

I’d had a couple of YT suggestions for his vids - some old harmless looking stuff with him chatting with Wim Hof and other eccentrics but the newer ones were def getting really weird.

 

[BigMoaner]

he's mildly conspiratoral i guess. but he is now a darling of the far right, anti vax crowd. 4.7million subscribers.

how many newspapers did the sun used to sell a day?

 

[8ball]

I’d actually thought better of him.
Yeah, I know…

 

[BigMoaner]

I’d actually thought better of him.
Yeah, I know…

he's a heady mixture of the worst of wellness, spirituality and fundementalist (12 step) recovery. he's got a way with words and expression, but otherwise the type of guy i would always move away from at a social event.

 

[BigMoaner]

the problem is that there is so much money involved in that format. a left wing guy i like whose got a similar level of following has just bought a 2.7 million home in LA. all he does is tick tock and podcast. if you have a good angle, it's easy money.

 

[8ball]

he's a heady mixture of the worst of wellness, spirituality and fundementalist (12 step) recovery. he's got a way with words and expression, but otherwise the type of guy i would always move away from at a social event.

There were moments in some other vids where he came over as a decent and caring person, and there have been plenty of moments of that in the past. Mixed in with the horrific ego, of course, but I was rooting for those flashes of his better nature to get the upper hand.

 

[BigMoaner]

There were moments in some other vids where he came over as a decent and caring person, and there have been plenty of moments of that in the past. Mixed in with the horrific ego, of course, but I was rooting for those flashes of his better nature to get the upper hand.

he's probably very conflicted because yeh he does seem to be empathetic. but if it's a choice between £50k a week or £150k...

 

[xenon]

fairly good break down of the grift of Russell brand as he drifts further into the far right and anti vax. a good analysis of how the grift works (often hidden by the hey "i'm just asking questions" angle) these days. and how the grift is radicalising, likely along the lines of the presenters themselves. to think we used to think newspapers were dangerous, to me they didn't even come close to what youtube has turned into.

He’s always been a narcissistic twat. I’m not surprise he’s into this..

 

[8ball]

he's probably very conflicted because yeh he does seem to be empathetic. but if it's a choice between £50k a week or £150k...

Call me a virtue-signalling dick, but I could probably scrape by on the 50k and console myself with a better night’s sleep.

 

[PR1Berske]

RB has always rubbed me up the wrong way. Talking like a Victorian dictionary doesn't impress me unless there is substance,and he's never had substance. Well, substances, obvz, and it shows.

Like Gervais he just enjoys talking vaguely complicated to charm an audience, it's all theatre and lies.

 

[High Voltage]

fairly good break down of the grift of Russell brand as he drifts further into the far right and anti vax. a good analysis of how the grift works (often hidden by the hey "i'm just asking questions" angle) these days. and how the grift is radicalising, likely along the lines of the presenters themselves. to think we used to think newspapers were dangerous, to me they didn't even come close to what youtube has turned into.

Strictly for "research" you understand, I started listening to this Pakman "thing" - I'm not a great fan of Pakman's stuff, it seems harmless enough, yet he likes the sound of his voice a little bit too much . . . which grates

So much so, that I fast forwarded to a Brand bit - I lasted less than 10 seconds before his voice annoyed me so much I had to stop

The thing is, I can't be the only person who's like this, but for him to have so many followers then there must be an awful lot of people who can get past his voice . . . I don't think I've ever registered anything that he's said because I can't / won't listen to him for long enough

 

[existentialist]

Strictly for "research" you understand, I started listening to this Pakman "thing" - I'm not a great fan of Pakman's stuff, it seems harmless enough, yet he likes the sound of his voice a little bit too much . . . which grates

So much so, that I fast forwarded to a Brand bit - I lasted less than 10 seconds before his voice annoyed me so much I had to stop

The thing is, I can't be the only person who's like this, but for him to have so many followers then there must be an awful lot of people who can get past his voice . . . I don't think I've ever registered anything that he's said because I can't / won't listen to him for long enough

I hadn't actually realised what it was about him - so thank you for that - but yes, I have also found Brand grating to listen to, even before he disappeared down this rabbit hole, and that's precisely it. I think it's because he talks too fast, interrupts the other person, and generally comes over as wanting everyone to know what HE thinks, and isn't much bothered about anything else.

 

[two sheds]

not watched him before but also noticeable is the way almost every word is demonstrated by hand waving to pretend that what he's saying is really really significant. And seeing a dead fish in a river being a portent of bad things to come .... errrrm ...

 

[High Voltage]

not watched him before but also noticeable is the way almost every word is demonstrated by hand waving to pretend that what he's saying is really really significant. And seeing a dead fish in a river being a portent of bad things to come .... errrrm ...

I think the hand wavy thing is because he's a bit "creative"

 

[keybored]

It's because he's a bit of a wanker.

 

[two sheds]

And yes he does have a remarkably annoying whiney voice.