Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[NoXion]

but who would be behind such a plan?

The Jews.

I think at this point that it's safe to say it's a cast-iron law of conspiracy theories that they will all eventually reduce themselves down into anti-Semitism.

This QAnon bullshit about the elites glugging down adrenochrome tortured out of kids, is basically a redux of the old blood libel.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

"Them"

Wake up Sheeple! It's 'They' actually, 'They' are responsible for all of this

 

[Johnny Doe]

The Jews.

I think at this point that it's safe to say it's a cast-iron law of conspiracy theories that they will all eventually reduce themselves down into anti-Semitism.

This QAnon bullshit about the elites glugging down adrenochrome tortured out of kids, is basically a redux of the old blood libel.

And Bill Gates. Don't forget him

 

[killer b]

A friend tells me that the danger from Omicron is being overhyped in order to use up old vaccine stocks before they go out of date. Seems a bit overkill to me.

he has - of course - just caught covid, as have all the friends he was out with last week.

 

[Brainaddict]

I've only just become aware that there's a conspiracy theory that PCR tests give you cancer, so there's a hardcore bunch of anti-vax conspiracists who not only won't get vaccinated but refuse to even be tested for covid. Nuts.

 

[prunus]

I've only just become aware that there's a conspiracy theory that PCR tests give you cancer, so there's a hardcore bunch of anti-vax conspiracists who not only won't get vaccinated but refuse to even be tested for covid. Nuts.

They are so so scared aren’t they? Like little children. It’s almost enough to make one feel sorry for them.

 

[Brainaddict]

You're right, they're very scared. I sort of hesitated to post this, but this is how I learned of this particular theory, and you do kind of feel sorry for them.

 

[BigMoaner]

I've only just become aware that there's a conspiracy theory that PCR tests give you cancer, so there's a hardcore bunch of anti-vax conspiracists who not only won't get vaccinated but refuse to even be tested for covid. Nuts.

been around from the start. there was video flying round with a guy saying "check the box! they've even writen it on the box!". and sure enough, there is a carcigenic in it but you'd need about 30 tons of it maybe get cancer.

how inept for a global cabal to be advertising their evil ways on the actual box!

toddlers. really.

 

[BigMoaner]

You're right, they're very scared. I sort of hesitated to post this, but this is how I learned of this particular theory, and you do kind of feel sorry for them.

yeh he's in a dark place. he believes that evil forces have currently taken over the world and it's the "truthers" who are the only once can see it.

it's a dark place.

 

[LDC]

You're right, they're very scared. I sort of hesitated to post this, but this is how I learned of this particular theory, and you do kind of feel sorry for them.

First few mins brings up 'interesting' issues around mandatory medical stuff... how about mandatory testing for covid? What about someone that has symptoms, but refuses testing and isolation? Should testing be mandatory?

10/10 for that doctor that said something like "So what if the tests give you cancer, you're already got that fucker!"

 

[NoXion]

They are so so scared aren’t they? Like little children. It’s almost enough to make one feel sorry for them.

I find it so weird that these people will spook themselves with their shadow, though. It's not like the world has a shortage of real problems with frightening implications. And yet, the real problems are at least in solvable in principle. It's not like climate change or global pandemics can fight back against any serious attempts at solving them. But on the other hand, an ancient conspiracy that has maintained an iron grip on power for centuries, if not millennia, is going to be much harder to defeat.

 

[killer b]

I'm obviously not going to watch the mad guy's video, but how does the test give you cancer? The only point of contact between you and the test is the cotton swab up your nose, is this what's carcinogenic?

 

[gentlegreen]

I'm obviously not going to watch the mad guy's video, but how does the test give you cancer? The only point of contact between you and the test is the cotton swab up your nose, is this what's carcinogenic?

According to the sticker I removed in the park some time ago, the ethene oxide used to sterilise the swabs is probably carcinogenic if you glug the stuff ...

 

[LDC]

I'm obviously not going to watch the mad guy's video, but how does the test give you cancer? The only point of contact between you and the test is the cotton swab up your nose, is this what's carcinogenic?

That the swabs give you cancer is not the most extreme end of views, some think the swab gives you covid/takes a DNA sample/puts nanobots in your head/etc.

 

[two sheds]

That man (WWGOWGA) isn't far from violence. As if hospitals haven't got enough to deal with .

Specialist said to the woman who's in to have large cancerous growth removed "what are you worried about cancer from testing for, you've already got it". That becomes PRUUF that 'they know' testing causes cancer.

 

[nogojones]

You're right, they're very scared. I sort of hesitated to post this, but this is how I learned of this particular theory, and you do kind of feel sorry for them.

"Where we go one we go all"... Now where have I heard that before?

I don't feel sorry for him. He's just a cunt.

 

[BigMoaner]

They are so so scared aren’t they? Like little children. It’s almost enough to make one feel sorry for them.

utterly no way that they can be at peace, i'm sure. if you truly believe that nurferious forces are currently trying to enslave/kill us all then it's like they are in their own little room, shadow boxing with no one. that's why it's quite compelling to read about them - it's like watching someone in their own horror movie written and directed and acted in by themselves. it is actually sad. i doubt the truly gone are having a moments rest from what is going on their minds.

 

[scalyboy]

I'm obviously not going to watch the mad guy's video, but how does the test give you cancer? The only point of contact between you and the test is the cotton swab up your nose, is this what's carcinogenic?

This is a characteristic of the loons - their 'research' uncovers different crazy theories seemingly each month, which makes them harder to combat and to refute.

Remember how it used to be all about 5G?
Then it was about how the vaccine would implant us with microchips allowing Gates (or the Space Jews) to track our every move; then the 'shedding' bollocks; next, the jab turns you into a magnet; or the jab makes you Bluetooth-enabled; or everyone who'd had the vaccine would be dead within two years as part of Gates' depopulation plan (I had to block an old friend when she started telling me that); now the tests themselves give you cancer. It never ends...

 

[cupid_stunt]

The conspiraloon mod on that pirate radio board has come up with another classic.

Do some people really believe that crap PCR testing is purely a CONVID TEST? They are gathering every single persons DNA, who's desperate or stupid enough, to have one of those swabs shoved up their nose or to the back of their throats. All stored on their data records, another valuable piece of human data from their numbed down subjects.

The conspiraloon anti-vaxxer mod ended-up losing his mod status, carried on posting as a user, disappeared a few months back now.

Just found out he passed away from covid.

 

[editor]

Given the fact that omicron seems far more transmissible than other variants, I suspect that some Covid-denying anti vaxx loons are going to be in for a really nasty shock soon. And while the karma may be well deserved, they're going to end up clogging up hospitals with their internet-borne stupidity.

 

[BigMoaner]

This is a characteristic of the loons - their 'research' uncovers different crazy theories seemingly each month, which makes them harder to combat and to refute.

Remember how it used to be all about 5G?
Then it was about how the vaccine would implant us with microchips allowing Gates (or the Space Jews) to track our every move; then the 'shedding' bollocks; next, the jab turns you into a magnet; or the jab makes you Bluetooth-enabled; or everyone who'd had the vaccine would be dead within two years as part of Gates' depopulation plan (I had to block an old friend when she started telling me that); now the tests themselves give you cancer. It never ends...

it was always amusing to see on the facebook groups (before the great purge) the fact taht most of the "theories" absoloutly contradicted previous/current theories. but then you'd have these grand memes of "WWGWGA" and how they are all spiritually bonded or something. hillarious that barely a single one of them was on the same page as the next man, always constantly negating each other.

 

[two sheds]

It is remarkably similar to paranoia - my mum was a sweetie but suffered from that towards the end of her life, thought the police followed her everywhere and broke into her house

She ended up very private about it - she cut off everyone she told who said it was in her mind.

 

[BigMoaner]

Given the fact that omicron seems far more transmissible than other variants, I suspect that some Covid-denying anti vaxx loons are going to be in for a really nasty shock soon. And while the karma may be well deserved, they're going to end up clogging up hospitals with their internet-borne stupidity.

proper sitting ducks now.

 

[two sheds]

unless they have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic - in which case it'll feed into the "imaginary disease" bollox. I didn't get it bad so the rest of the world are making it all up.

 

[killer b]

karma may be well deserved

Most of the vocal antivaxxers I know seem to be in the middle of a psychiatric episode of one sort or another tbh. I just feel sorry for them and worried for them, both physically and mentally

 

[_Russ_]

unless they have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic - in which case it'll feed into the "imaginary disease" bollox. I didn't get it bad so the rest of the world are making it all up.

I think its almost a given that most will come to that conclusion

 

[AmateurAgitator]

The thing is I certainly don't think we live in a free society and there is increasing authoritarianism happening pretty much everywhere - that's a very real thing. No doubt that there are shadowy forces manipulating things to a degree - but all this stuff is just way off the chart.

It's obviously completely paranoid and unfortunately it's a big distraction and diversion from what's really going on - meaning that people get behind people like Ann Widdecombe and Neil Oliver (as just an example).

 

[David Clapson]

Does anyone know about proper clinical paranoia? I've read that it can be hereditary, so presumably there's a gene for it. Would it be accurate to say that the gene may be activated in some people but can remain dormant and 'untriggered' in others? If so, what are the possible triggers? Perhaps cocaine is one. Are there others, psychiatric or psychological in nature? Is there some pandemic-related reason why the gene may be triggered more often these days?

 

[Clair De Lune]

First few mins brings up 'interesting' issues around mandatory medical stuff... how about mandatory testing for covid? What about someone that has symptoms, but refuses testing and isolation? Should testing be mandatory?

10/10 for that doctor that said something like "So what if the tests give you cancer, you're already got that fucker!"

I wasnt even allowed to come into hospital for my op without isolating and taking a pcr test at a drive in centre. So I think her story falls down in the first minute.
Man...fear can really fuck with people can't it. Its sad.

 

[editor]

Most of the vocal antivaxxers I know seem to be in the middle of a psychiatric episode of one sort or another tbh. I just feel sorry for them and worried for them, both physically and mentally

I'm sorry about your friends but literally all of the ones I know - or at least the ones I haven't defriended yet - don't fit that description at all. They remain calmly and smugly convinced that they're absolutely right and any post challenging their bizarre worldview is swiftly rounded upon by their chums.

And, naturally, FB keeps them well fed with a newsfeed that reinforces their bonkers take on the pandemic.