Anti-vaxxers should all be locked away together in a stadium with Covid so they can get immunity the natural way. The unlucky ones can say their goodbyes via 5g.
any chance of a link? sounds interestingI had a read of a Reddit page where people were talking about how they used to be troo believers and eventually came out of it. Really interesting to see their accounts of how it happens, how all encompassing the belief system becomes and how they escape it.
any chance of a link? sounds interesting
It’s not that it gives you brain cancer. The concern is the infra-red beam from the temperature reader will damage the pineal gland. That’s the concern people have. It comes from an Australian nurse.
It’s very easy to debunk this, because the temperature reader doesn’t emit infrared, it reads infrared emissions i.e. heat.
Plenty of people might “yeah-but” you if you respond with the facts, but one or two might listen.
It’s worth knowing/understanding what the nonsense claim is and where it comes from so that it can be countered if possible. I’ve successfully managed it a few times. You only have to sew a seed of doubt and use their own gambit of “do your research” to make a difference. I reckon it’s worth it, if only for one or two people.
I had a read of a Reddit page where people were talking about how they used to be troo believers and eventually came out of it. Really interesting to see their accounts of how it happens, how all encompassing the belief system becomes and how they escape it.
any chance of a link? sounds interesting
I had a read of a Reddit page where people were talking about how they used to be troo believers and eventually came out of it. Really interesting to see their accounts of how it happens, how all encompassing the belief system becomes and how they escape it.
I’ve got a bad feeling about it. I think it’s going to be a really huge and significant part of the ongoing domino cascade that we’re currently experiencing. I think it’s dangerous, and will be increasingly so.
Some customers kicked off at each other in the shop the other day. I wasn’t there but colleagues told me about it. Two masked women asked a refusenik to mask up, she refused, shouting and shoving ensued.
Shit, that's really grim.
Yesterday I was in the shop. I asked people to put on their mask, to lift their mask over their nose etc. One said “Oh gosh sorry, yes of course!”. Two angrily declared they were exempt. I asked them to please have the lanyard and paperwork with them next time, explaining that it’s the law, they can download the exempt form for free over the internet, asking them to understand that we’re trying to keep the shop open so they can continue shopping there. Three argued with me about the conspiracy. A colleague stepped in to help with those, being very diplomatic and while not agreeing with them, didn’t oppose them either, just kept saying how it needs to be done.
This is one of the things I don’t get. We’re not telling them they’re wrong, we’re not telling them we doubt their theory, just asking them to wear a mask while they’re inside the shop so that we feel safe, so that we don’t get fined, so that we can keep the shop open. They’re so fired up about rights and freedoms while bullying us to conform to their beliefs.
If it was my shop, I'd install a trapdoor. If mask refuseniks start spouting all that conspiracy crap and refuse to leave, a quick click of the button and - whoosh! - they're gone.Yesterday I was in the shop. I asked people to put on their mask, to lift their mask over their nose etc. One said “Oh gosh sorry, yes of course!”. Two angrily declared they were exempt. I asked them to please have the lanyard and paperwork with them next time, explaining that it’s the law, they can download the exempt form for free over the internet, asking them to understand that we’re trying to keep the shop open so they can continue shopping there. Three argued with me about the conspiracy. A colleague stepped in to help with those, being very diplomatic and while not agreeing with them, didn’t oppose them either, just kept saying how it needs to be done.
This is one of the things I don’t get. We’re not telling them they’re wrong, we’re not telling them we doubt their theory, just asking them to wear a mask while they’re inside the shop so that we feel safe, so that we don’t get fined, so that we can keep the shop open. They’re so fired up about rights and freedoms while bullying us to conform to their beliefs.
ETA I just didn’t bother with some others. It was very apparent that it would lead to a pointless and upsetting exchange.
I'm guessing it's some health food/hippie type shop from that?!
Yes indeed. Brixton Wholefoods.
I’ve said this on here before, months ago when it all started. I think that some of this is coming from a population that has long felt disenfranchised, lied to, persecuted, victimised, ostracised.
The demographic who uses this shop is really interesting. And it’s really interesting to see who is taking on the hoax narrative. Irs not just the young white hippy types. The majority are Afrocaribbeans, but not the Windrush generation, who are all properly masked up.
If it was my shop, I'd install a trapdoor. If mask refuseniks start spouting all that conspiracy crap and refuse to leave, a quick click of the button and - whoosh! - they're gone.
For people that bang on about their rights, they sure as hell don't seem to give much of a fuck about other people's rights not to be infected.
I do find this all very strange. When I took the dog to the vets in Truro there was a bloke on the door politely letting people in when there was space in the shop, if they had a mask, with nice clear marks for where to queue. I only saw it for about 5 minutes but it was all very civilized. Fucking stupid thing to get iffy about.
But a trapdoor ... just doesn’t work.
Have there been many cases around there?
We operate a strict policy of six customers on the shop floor, two on the herb counter, and we’re introducing on,y one unmasked person at a time. Plenty are fine with this but a significantly number of people take umbrage, for any number of reasons.
They seem to think we’re asking them to indulge our personal neuroses.
Some of them come in wearing a mask and then take it off or lower it once they’re inside. Ask them to put it on, they sa6 “in a minute.... I’m not here for long.... I can’t breathe (which now has significant baggage attached to it)” etc.
Really, one unmasked person? Is that anyone without a mask or only people that say they have exemption? From what you've said that's going to be a right nightmare to enforce... Do you currently have someone stopping people coming in if there's already 6 in the shop?