Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

[scalyboy]

sorry Badgers I'm confused !

IMO not isolating after a +ve test, or if waiting for test (& results) even if double-jagged is one of the reasons why the case rate is far too high.

I’m currently self-isolating after a positive test and have received texts, emails and a phone call saying it’s a legal requirement to isolate and that I could be fined if I fail to do so. But is that still true, if as Badgers suggests, the police no longer have the power to charge / arrest? (NB I have no intention of not complying BTW, anyway the 10 days are nearly up)

I did notice on the tube since 19 July there are no more posters at station entrances saying how many people without masks had been refused entry/kicked off trains/fined.

And I wondered if that related to a change in the law. Sadiq Khan said masks would still be mandatory and I guess he has jurisdiction over TfL, but who enforces it? BtP? TfL staff? I’ve never seen either do so.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I’m currently self-isolating after a positive test and have received texts, emails and a phone call saying it’s a legal requirement to isolate and that I could be fined if I fail to do so. But is that still true, if as Badgers suggests, the police no longer have the power to charge / arrest? (NB I have no intention of not complying BTW, anyway the 10 days are nearly up)

I did notice on the tube since 19 July there are no more posters at station entrances saying how many people without masks had been refused entry/kicked off trains/fined.

And I wondered if that related to a change in the law. Sadiq Khan said masks would still be mandatory and I guess he has jurisdiction over TfL, but who enforces it? BtP? TfL staff? I’ve never seen either do so.

You do have to self isolate after a positive test for ten days.
I don’t think anyone are policing mask wearing on public transport.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

They can't really enforce something where a very large percentage of people aren't doing it and anyone can claim an exemption can they. Not that they're trying but if they did it would be an impossible task anyway.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

They can't really enforce something where a very large percentage of people aren't doing it and anyone can claim an exemption can they. Not that they're trying but if they did it would be an impossible task anyway.

Absolutely. It wasn’t really happening when it was legally mandatory.

 

[scalyboy]

Absolutely. It wasn’t really happening when it was legally mandatory.

There were printed TfL posters saying how many people had been caught and refused entry, turfed off trains or fined each month, but I never saw it happening. Lack of BtP staff I guess. I did wonder if those posters were being economical with the truth (e.g. made up figures)?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

There were printed TfL posters saying how many people had been caught and refused entry, turfed off trains or fined each month, but I never saw it happening. Lack of BtP staff I guess. I did wonder if those posters were being economical with the truth (e.g. made up figures)?

AFAIK BTP are a private operation paid for by the train companies. So they’ll appear if behaviour on rail transport is in any way disruptive to a service. Policing mask wearing too heavily means they’re being disruptive to the service.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I suppose when it was mandatory someone being awkward on a National Rail service would be removed at the next stop. But they can’t really police the underground for mask refuseniks. Nothing would move.

 

[scalyboy]

AFAIK BTP are a private operation paid for by the train companies. So they’ll appear if behaviour on rail transport is in any way disruptive to a service. Policing mask wearing too heavily means they’re being disruptive to the service.

I never knew that. I suppose I thought the BTP were a division of the police who were paid by TfL etc, in the same way that football clubs pay the police for attendance at games.

 

[cupid_stunt]

AFAIK BTP are a private operation paid for by the train companies.

That implies they are a trumped up security firm, they are not, despite most of their funding coming from the railway companies, they are a public police force, overseen by the British Transport Police Authority, a public body, that have overall control of the force.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

That implies they are a trumped up security firm, they are not, despite most of their funding coming from the railway companies, they are a public police force, overseen by the British Transport Police Authority, a public body, that have overall control of the force.

Nice googling. But you’re not arguing against any point I have made.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Nice googling. But you’re not arguing against any point I have made.

I didn't need to google it, I thought it was common knowledge, so decided I would educate you.

 

[ddraig]

Scum!
Llandudno

Anti-vaxxers leave girl, 13, shaken and upset

The girl's mother says it was "just adults bullying, intimidating and harassing minors".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I didn't need to google it, I thought it was common knowledge, so decided I would educate you.

Err, thanks then.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Err, thanks then.

No problem, mate, pleased to have helped.

 

[editor]

Scum!
Llandudno

Anti-vaxxers leave girl, 13, shaken and upset

The girl's mother says it was "just adults bullying, intimidating and harassing minors".

www.bbc.co.uk

Good on that girl for taking no shit from those stupid cunts.

 

[_Russ_]

Was there a policeman anywhere to be seen I wonder?

North Wales Police is aware of the incident.

Oh well thats nice

 

[scalyboy]

Good on that girl for taking no shit from those stupid cunts.

Yes, she did v well to keep her composure, stay rational & polite (I doubt I could’ve remained so civil) - “please keep away from me - you’re making me feel unsafe - we’re minors” - and to show them up for the shower of cunts that they are.

What goes on in their minds where they think that to show up where they’re not wanted or invited, and to start intimidating & harassing minors is a Good Thing to do?

Absolute filth.

 

[Supine]

Absolutely. It wasn’t really happening when it was legally mandatory.

I don’t agree with that at all. People have shown that when orders are given to stay at home or wear masks or whatever they mostly comply. Not everyone, but most if asked.

The problem now is the government have not asked. People are dying because covid measures are not required.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I don’t agree with that at all. People have shown that when orders are given to stay at home or wear masks or whatever they mostly comply. Not everyone, but most if asked.

The problem now is the government have not asked. People are dying because covid measures are not required.

Not sure you understood my point. I was talking about policing, not community compliance.

 

[Supine]

Not sure you understood my point. I was talking about policing, not community compliance.

Haha, not at all then

Cops could never make a country comply. They have enough to do already!

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Haha, not at all then

Cops could never make a country comply. They have enough to do already!

Well there’s a number of reasons for compliance. I complied with mask wearing because it seemed anti-social to do anything but. The legality didn’t really come into it. Of course I can’t speak for others but I’m sure lots thought along these lines.

 

[TopCat]

Fucking arse in my local yesterday who has a PHD telling me covid is a lie. No one has died from it, they were all poisoned by hyperbaric oxygen. Fucks sake.

 

[existentialist]

Fucking arse in my local yesterday who has a PHD telling me covid is a lie. No one has died from it, they were all poisoned by hyperbaric oxygen. Fucks sake.

What was the PhD in? Presumably not epidemiology...

 

[TopCat]

What was the PhD in? Presumably not epidemiology...

I said politely, I have lost people to covid, they are dead, others are or have been very ill. I then said stop talking. He did thankfully and apologised (for what?) later.

 

[Chilli.s]

Was there a policeman anywhere to be seen I wonder?


Oh well thats nice

not even a bus to flag down

 

[Chilli.s]

Fucking arse in my local yesterday who has a PHD telling me covid is a lie. No one has died from it, they were all poisoned by hyperbaric oxygen. Fucks sake.

Phd probably ballshit too

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I think every person who ever wanted to inform me of the temperatures at which steel melts had a phd in structural engineering.

 

[existentialist]

I think every person who ever wanted to inform me of the temperatures at which steel melts had a phd in structural engineering.

I bet they didn't...

 

[NoXion]

I bet they didn't...

I believe that one has to publish original research in order to get a PhD, so a good way of showing up such bullshitters is to ask for their thesis paper.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I believe that one has to publish original research in order to get a PhD, so a good way of showing up such bullshitters is to ask for their thesis paper.

I’m sure they have a crackpot website they can all point to.