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Count legs then divide by two.I’ve always wondered how people estimate crowd numbers
Count legs then divide by two.I’ve always wondered how people estimate crowd numbers
take the police estimate and the organisers estimate and meet halfwayI’ve always wondered how people estimate crowd numbers
take the police estimate and the organisers estimate and meet halfway
There's a story behind this: who didn't give permission for this rally and why?Fined £10k too
Piers Corbyn fined £10,000 for organising anti-lockdown rally
Brother of Jeremy Corbyn targeted under law restricting gatherings of more than 30 peoplewww.theguardian.com
It’s the new Covid law, introduced last week the one a lot of people seem to wrongly believe only applies to ‘raves’, ten thousand pounds fine for gatherings of more than 30.There's a story behind this: who didn't give permission for this rally and why?
To hold a big rally in Trafalgar Square you have to do 2 things:
1. Notify the police (if you don't they'll hear about a big rally like this and get in touch)
2. Get permission from the GLA, who manage the Square (if you don't know about this the police will tell you, although I'm sure that Corby or one of the other organisers did know). The GLA make you get public liability insurance before giving permission (costs a few hundred pounds).
Corbyn says in that article "he and other organisers had filled out all the necessary risk assessments and spent two weeks negotiating with Scotland Yard over the event." So he admits he's the organiser, but doesn't say he did have permission (which he presumably didn't have seeing as he was arrested and fined).
So did the police say no or Saddiq Khan?
If it was the police was it because they didn't want a big crowd of Covid deniers getting together and refusing to socially distance or because they didn't want this rally to go ahead (which I suspect the conspiraloons involved will think - after all, political rallies can be allowed under the new regulations and others have taken place, like yesterday's 'million person march').
If it was the Mayor/GLA was it because they didn't want the rally, or because they were worried about a lack of social distancing, or could they just not get insurance?
Or were the risk assessments not up to scratch? Or were Corbyn and the other organisers too pig headed or incompetent to sort out the paperwork and just went ahead anyway?
I don't care about this bunch of idiots, fantasists and fascists, and fuck Piers Corbyn and David Icke, but I am curious where it went wrong.
There's a story behind this: who didn't give permission for this rally and why?
To hold a big rally in Trafalgar Square you have to do 2 things:
1. Notify the police (if you don't they'll hear about a big rally like this and get in touch)
2. Get permission from the GLA, who manage the Square (if you don't know about this the police will tell you, although I'm sure that Corby or one of the other organisers did know). The GLA make you get public liability insurance before giving permission (costs a few hundred pounds).
Corbyn says in that article "he and other organisers had filled out all the necessary risk assessments and spent two weeks negotiating with Scotland Yard over the event." So he admits he's the organiser, but doesn't say he did have permission (which he presumably didn't have seeing as he was arrested and fined).
So did the police say no or Saddiq Khan?
If it was the police was it because they didn't want a big crowd of Covid deniers getting together and refusing to socially distance or because they didn't want this rally to go ahead (which I suspect the conspiraloons involved will think - after all, political rallies can be allowed under the new regulations and others have taken place, like yesterday's 'million person march').
If it was the Mayor/GLA was it because they didn't want the rally, or because they were worried about a lack of social distancing, or could they just not get insurance?
Or were the risk assessments not up to scratch? Or were Corbyn and the other organisers too pig headed or incompetent to sort out the paperwork and just went ahead anyway?
I don't care about this bunch of idiots, fantasists and fascists, and fuck Piers Corbyn and David Icke, but I am curious where it went wrong.
(i)the gathering has been organised by a business, a charitable, benevolent or philanthropic institution, a public body, or a political body,
(ii)the person responsible for organising the gathering (“the gathering organiser”) has carried out a risk assessment which would satisfy the requirements of regulation 3 of the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999 F1, whether or not the gathering organiser is subject to those Regulations, and
(iii)the gathering organiser has taken all reasonable measures to limit the risk of transmission of the coronavirus, taking into account the risk assessment carried out under paragraph (ii),
Yeah, he's been done under the new regulations, but that isn't the whole story because, as you point out, the Million Man March did get the go ahead.It’s the new Covid law, introduced last week the one a lot of people seem to wrongly believe only applies to ‘raves’, ten thousand pounds fine for gatherings of more than 30.
This will get interesting, this man fought back and won exemption on grounds of his rally being a political movement but corbyn didn’t.
Metropolitan police drop investigation into anti-racism protester
Force backs down, conceding Ken Hinds’ planned march was exempt from Covid ruleswww.theguardian.com
I imagine they would say he has fallen foul of paragraph (iii) - though maybe he means to argue that all reasonable measures have been taken because none are necessary
"The order for my arrest appears to have come from on high, nothing to do with local police. When I asked the police, they said to me it came from on high. It was either the Greater London Authority or the government that indicated that me or somebody had to be arrested because they were clearly annoyed that we were getting so much success and publicity through the mainstream [media] such as [Russian state-backed media channel] Russia Today."
I think where Hinds has succeeded but Corbyn is going to fail is on the definitionIt’s the new Covid law, introduced last week the one a lot of people seem to wrongly believe only applies to ‘raves’, ten thousand pounds fine for gatherings of more than 30.
This will get interesting, this man fought back and won exemption on grounds of his rally being a political movement but corbyn didn’t.
Metropolitan police drop investigation into anti-racism protester
Force backs down, conceding Ken Hinds’ planned march was exempt from Covid ruleswww.theguardian.com
Yep don’t think any mp’s kids birthday parties will get ten grand fines but according to the written law don’t see why not.Easy for people with the right connections to get around as well one would imagine. Fuck piers corbyn tho.
Just look at the parade of idiots masquerading as medical experts
Who were the so-called ‘top doctors and nurses’ that addressed the anti-Covid measures demo as global death toll reaches 843K?
If Covid19 can indeed be cured by tonic water as claimed, let’s hope there’s also a cure for stupid.www.thelondoneconomic.com
Just look at the parade of idiots masquerading as medical experts
Who were the so-called ‘top doctors and nurses’ that addressed the anti-Covid measures demo as global death toll reaches 843K?
If Covid19 can indeed be cured by tonic water as claimed, let’s hope there’s also a cure for stupid.www.thelondoneconomic.com
That's an oxymoron, the natural way is just to suffer until you recover on your own or die. It works if you've got a cold but tends to be ineffective against a knife wound."Natural healing consultant"
is there no part of that you agree with?