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Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

How it started

How it’s going:

lol.

He began speaking to an unidentified man, later revealed to be Orr, and tried to explain that the business was in breach of Covid regulations, the Local Democracy Reporting Service said.
Orr replied: "I am not entering into a contract with you. I refuse to stand under you."
Mr Broadbent added: "Orr pointed out that he had an extract from the Magna Carta on the front door of his property which he asked me to read."
The Magna Carta, signed in 1215 by King John, was a royal charter of rights designed to bring peace between the King and his barons.
Orr falsely claimed that Clause 61 meant he could ignore laws that he deems "unjust".
Although it is one of the foundational documents of English law, only four parts of the Magna Carta remain valid.
None of those clauses allows citizens to decide which laws should apply to them.
 
I'm surprised that the Magna Carta doesn't specifically mention childrens' play centres.
I think you'll find this section is pretty conclusive:

(4) The guardian of the land of an heir who is under age shall take from it only reasonable revenues, customary dues, and feudal services. He shall do this without destruction or damage to men or property. If we have given the guardianship of the land to a sheriff, or to any person answerable to us for the revenues, and he commits destruction or damage, we will exact compensation from him, and the land shall be entrusted to two worthy and prudent men of the same 'fee', who shall be answerable to us for the revenues, or to the person to whom we have assigned them. If we have given or sold to anyone the guardianship of such land, and he causes destruction or damage, he shall lose the guardianship of it, and it shall be handed over to two worthy and prudent men of the same 'fee', who shall be similarly answerable to us. But absolutely no stockinglessness and no fucking pissing in the ball pits you dirty heathen cunts.
 
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Annie Kelly who is the UK correspondent for the Qanonanononymous podcast does a good bit of coverage of UK anti-vaccine stuff and has her own podcast coming soon apparently.
that podcast is the absoloute bollocks. if you get a duff episode, keep trying. it's a brilliant feet of journalism and analysis.

they go under cover a lot as well. they are funny as fuck and deeply intelligent. their pod makes $40k a month on patreon! there's only three of em!
 
And another anti-vax campaigner hospitalised with covid. But don't mock or you will be eternally damned to be tormented in hell.

TruNews has said that eternal damnation would await anyone mocking Mr Wiles’s affliction.

“Already, the naysayers and mockers have started with their taunts,” the website said. “Let them speak their foolish words and let them mock. It will only serve to be used to fuel their flames of torment in hell unless they repent.”


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It was also good to see some of the people fighting back for a change, not just the grifters.

The bus hassling guy was great.
Did it scare you? I've got too much skin in the observing game to be objective. I worry about it,it feels and looks new
 
Did it scare you? I've got too much skin in the observing game to be objective. I worry about it,it feels and looks new

I knew about most of it already, the whole bleach thing was something that had slipped my memory and that was a horrible reminder of just how evil some of these people are. Also the exploiting of grieving parents was just yuk.

It was a handy reminder that they aren't funny, they're nasty.
 
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Is there a way of reading the Independent without having to log in?
My standard trick is to disable Javascript (on firefox: rightclick, inspect, click the three dots, go to settings, then disable java under advanced settings).
 
My standard trick is to disable Javascript (on firefox: rightclick, inspect, click the three dots, go to settings, then disable java under advanced settings).

Weird, I've just opened it a second time and now I can read the whole thing.
 
Sadly more and more people seem to be equating anti-vaccine and anti-lockdown with anti-establishment, and presenting anyone who "complies" as some govt puppet, sheep etc. Can see it becoming more accepted to present it as for or against big gov/pharma.

It's basically the next step from 'share this picture of a puppy, and if you don't you want all animals cruelly tortured'. Look at me , I'm anti-establishment, there's no nuance or substance to my protest, but I'm one the goodies, right?
 
That doc is well worth a look. Shows the grifting sociopaths behind it all
See also this in-depth investigation about Wakefield ( With the sources and references in a linked document):



I started off thinking 'that Wakefield is a bit of a dodgy scientist' and ending up thinking 'f*ck how could anyone let Wakefield get away with any of this!'
It's long but worth a watch.
 
See also this in-depth investigation about Wakefield ( With the sources and references in a linked document):

I started off thinking 'that Wakefield is a bit of a dodgy scientist' and ending up thinking 'f*ck how could anyone let Wakefield get away with any of this!'
It's long but worth a watch.

I watched it the other day, it's bloody good.

Like you, I always knew he was a dodgy scientist, but didn't know all the facts, so I came away with the same view as you, it's shocking.
 
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