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Discussion: UK anti-vaxx 'freedom' morons, protests and QAnon idiots

Then, this classic move by the council....

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That's a good tactic - good on the council.
 
.god, couldn't engage with them. they're extremists. you will get extreme reactions.

the press are restricting free speach. or maybe the editors and news desks and sources linked to these media institutions are actually not thick?

they are not giving you a platform because what you spout. no further explanation needed from the MSM (not that I have much time for them either). this is always a massive far right whinge too -"why won't they publish my disgusting racist views"? because they're disgusting and racist you fucking bell end.

I spent a bit of time politely explaining that:

"It's literally conspiracy 101. A fact - that Ofcom issued some quidance to broadcasters on 27th March, the misrepresentation of that fact as "free speech from the press.....became forbidden', and then that presented that as the cause of a statement that is provably untrue, that you wouldn't see 'any' reports on deaths or serious side effects in the mainstream media. That absolute statement as then been quietly altered after it's been challenged to you've seen 'very little' reporting in the mainstream. I'd assume you think that's vague enough not to provably untrue, yet every UK mainstream news outlet has headlined on the BBC presenter who died and none are denying the possibility the vaccine could be a factor"

Unfriended me and has either taken the post down or made it private.
 
I spent a bit of time politely explaining that:

"It's literally conspiracy 101. A fact - that Ofcom issued some quidance to broadcasters on 27th March, the misrepresentation of that fact as "free speech from the press.....became forbidden', and then that presented that as the cause of a statement that is provably untrue, that you wouldn't see 'any' reports on deaths or serious side effects in the mainstream media. That absolute statement as then been quietly altered after it's been challenged to you've seen 'very little' reporting in the mainstream. I'd assume you think that's vague enough not to provably untrue, yet every UK mainstream news outlet has headlined on the BBC presenter who died and none are denying the possibility the vaccine could be a factor"

Unfriended me and has either taken the post down or made it private.

And, not only does the OFCOM guidance not apply to the press, but they didn't even ban broadcasters from broadcasting potentially inaccurate or harmful comments about covid, just that they should ensure timely and robust challenge by programme presenters or other guests to such content.

In particular, we strongly advise you to take particular care when broadcasting, for example:

• unverified information about the Coronavirus. This may include, for instance, discussion of unverified theories for the causes of the Coronavirus and discussion of potential treatments or cures for the Coronavirus that do not align with advice of the NHS or other public health authorities; and

• statements that seek to question or undermine the advice of public health bodies on the Coronavirus, or otherwise undermine people’s trust in the advice of mainstream sources of information about the disease.

This kind of content can be broadcast with appropriate protections. However, given the very high levels of public concern about the Coronavirus at present and for the foreseeable future, broadcasters should take great care to ensure they provide adequate protection to their audience if this kind of potentially harmful content is broadcast in a programme (see Rule 2.1 of the Broadcasting Code) 2 .

It is for each broadcaster to make an editorial decision about how to provide adequate protection to their audience in the circumstances. It could be achieved in a number of ways, including by ensuring timely and robust challenge by programme presenters or other guests. Presenters should therefore be ready to intervene to provide sufficiently strong challenge and context in the event of programme contributors making potentially inaccurate or harmful comments about the Coronavirus.

Perfectly reasonable and totally fair.

 
Got a right pair of wankers here, Freeland of the Land loons, that run a barbers, they have had 12 fixed penalty notices issued for breaches of the Covid rules, with fines totalling £33,000, and a council order to close between 13 and 20 May, later extended until 17 July, and still remained open whilst refusing to wear masks!

There's been a few surprises for them recently, they were arrested on 26th May, and had the furniture & equipment removed from the shop.

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Then, this classic move by the council....

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as said, the long game is going to be very interesting for these types.

covid will cast a long shadow. whilst the vast majority of folk will reflect with their kids/grandkids, will these folk still be digging their feet in? "oh that? that was a load of horseshit and i ignored it all"

"but didn't that put people at risk, grandad?"

it won't age well.
 
look at that wellbeing centre next door. I bet that's the source of the barber's information and strategy.

Not sure about that, if it was, you would have expected the Wellbeing Centre to have opened before they were allowed, and after opening, the staff to be without masks, and would therefore be subject to the same enforcement action.

Facebook posts are far more likely to be the source of misinformation.
 
Not sure about that, if it was, you would have expected the Wellbeing Centre to have opened before they were allowed, and after opening, the staff to be without masks, and would therefore be subject to the same enforcement action.

Facebook posts are far more likely to be the source of misinformation.
I have a loon-based wellbeing centre close to my house. They have been open throughout because 'therapy' is allowed under the regulations. My local one has actively encouraged users to not wear masks and has a 'no mask? - we won't ask' sign up on the door. I think it's much easier for such places to get away with it because of loopholes in the law compared to standard businesses like barbers.
 
Fuck I really don't like these people. Would honestly find it diffcukt to be in the same room as the type who runs that type of site.
 
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