Discussion about UK politics forum

[nosos]

You continue to try and make free speech arguments to defend the use of vile and stupid personal abuse as a valid debating tactitic and label anyone who disagrees as a dictator. Making comparisons with fascists is the sign of someone who is really losing the argument

TeeJay, have a J and calm down for a moment - where did I compare anyone to fascists? I said that some of the suggestions and people on this thread were dictatorial i.e. people seeking to dictate the correct manner in which to post on uk politics - were people not doing this?

It seesm that instead of addressing the issues some people would (yet again) try and turn the whole debate into an attack on one person and throw abuse and false accusations at them, instead of actually debate or prodice a coherent argument.

You really have got a persecution complex going haven't you. You're calling for bans and binnings - even if I had no idea who you were, I'd oppose this - the fact that you're calling for it after a large argument with certain posters make me take your suggestions even less seriously.

 

[silentNate]

I am 'the_B'

 

[nosos]

'Maybe' 'I' 'am' 'Nate' '? ''

It all makes so much sense!

 

[nosos]

Wait a minute. If you're 'nate' and 'nate' is 'the B' then who's 'emilia'?

 

[silentNate]

Is it possible to go back to the level of discussion on uk p+p for a moment...
Seems too many parties and not enough issues are being discussed...
Vote RESPECT

 

[Dubversion]

Wait a minute. If you're 'nate' and 'nate' is 'the B' then who's 'emilia'?

now you're being silly.

emilia was CLEARLY an entirely new poster who arrived as if by magic and vanished just as quickly. obviously.

 

[nosos]

Seems too many parties and not enough issues are being discussed...

Then start some threads on what you consider to be issues and stop presuming your personal tastes hold true for an entire message board.

 

[Dubversion]

Vote RESPECT

good to see you're supporting proponents of capital punishment and anti-abortion, nate.

 

[silentNate]

Did you enjoy snorkelling on your holiday Dubversion, I'm sure a rest will have done you the world of good
.............directs Dub back to music forum......................

 

[the B]

I think UK P&P has problems and they won't get fixed on their own, UK P&P is stable but shit.

There is little pressure or desire to change it from how it is among the (relatively few but very high posting) people who use it.

It is alienating, full of mud and threads that many people outside of UK P&P don't want to read - it's why UK P&P is avoided...

nosos says other forusm are like this - say sports or suburban

I disagree, I don't think people have a problem with posting about their DIY problem, desire for a new thing to try cooking or how great a goal some person scored in some match...

In UK P&P - I have a feeling people avoid posting in it because they think it'll descend into mud. This can be shown by the way many would be UK P&P threads are found in general...

 

[Dubversion]

.............directs Dub back to music forum......................

ah, now it's trying to be patronising.....

 

[nosos]

emilia was CLEARLY an entirely new poster who arrived as if by magic and vanished just as quickly. obviously.

As if by magic.

weird how she only registered in the time you had to be a member to read the boards. she developed quite an affection for the b in a very short space of time. the internet is often the opposite of real life i guess.

 

[silentNate]

good to see you're supporting proponents of capital punishment and anti-abortion, nate.

Don't talk bullshit when it should be clear that respect are pro-choice and so am I
I neither supprt capital punishment/corporal punishment or capitalist punishment

 

[nosos]

nosos says other forusm are like this - say sports or suburban

When did I say that exactly? Now you've resorted to fantasism!

I think a lot of P&P thread end up in general because of the overwhelming leftism of uk politics & because most of the right-wingers bar a few exceptions are pretty crap.

 

[Dubversion]

Don't talk bullshit when it should be clear that respect are por-abortion and so am I
I neither supprt capital punishment/corporal punishment or capitalist punishment

but Galloway is vehemently pro-capital punishment and anti-abortion and you're proposing a vote for him

does the contradiction elude you?

 

[silentNate]

I propose a vote for RESPECT- not a vote for George Galloway- I see no other socialist option

 

[nosos]

Don't talk bullshit when it should be clear that respect are pro-abortion and so am I

You're pro-abortion? Murderer!

How's it clear that respect are pro-abortion? They don't even have a stated position on the subject on their website!

 

[Dubversion]

I propose a vote for RESPECT- not a vote for George Galloway- I see no other socialist option

so you don't have a problem voting for someone who's views are quite so abhorrent? you don't think this may have some impact on his policymaking and the like?

It seems some on the left have forgotten, or chosen to ignore, the importance of being pro-choice on abortion. The leading light of the Respect coalition, George Galloway, is well known for his anti-abortion views. Well, a group of pro-choice activists will be picketing George Galloway when he comes to speak at a Respect meeting at Leeds University on Monday 26 April. Galloway takes the religious view of course “I believe in God. I have to believe that the collection of cells has a soul.” For his religion he would stop everyone else from having a choice in this matter. Secularism, women’s reproductive rights? It appears they are mere shibboleths as far as his Respect co-sponsors, the SWP, are concerned.

nice attitude, nate. very well thought out.

 

[the B]

When did I say that exactly? Now you've resorted to fantasism!

I think a lot of P&P thread end up in general because of the overwhelming leftism of uk politics & because most of the right-wingers bar a few exceptions are pretty crap.

 

[silentNate]

I actually said the RESPECT following George Galloway was a bad thing....
I can find no other party that follows my views so I will vote RESPECT

 

[nosos]

The B shows the mud-slingers how to construct a coherent argument ..

Where did I say that exactly? You're not resorting to making things up are you? Surely that's the kind of debating tactic you're bitching about?

 

[Random]

Whew! It's a clasic. Not as good as the old threads, of course, but pretty funny.

U75 is a recreation activity, let's remember.

 

[silentNate]

Accusing me of lying again are you?

Do you want me to go and find the quotes?

Oh, I'm still waiting, Geri

 

[nosos]

U75 is a recreation activity, let's remember.

Counter-revolutinary prig! U75 is the vehicle for the glorious people's revolution!

 

[nosos]

Oh, I'm still waiting, Geri

What are you waiting for? The thread where you went on about her England shirt being Butcher's?

 

[Random]

"Ha ha, go on then. Its the fucking internet. I'll write what I like. Twat."

This quote from Flim summs up the whole issue for me.

 

[Dubversion]

I actually said the RESPECT following George Galloway was a bad thing....
I can find no other party that follows my views so I will vote RESPECT

nonetheless, george galloway is their de facto leader and thus his views - and the views of his fopping cohorts (which as nosher has pointed out are far from clear on these issues) - will have an impact on Respect's policy making.

notwithstanding the fact that almost anybody i 'respected' has withdrawn their support from Respect of late having seen what opportunist, self-serving cunts they are, Galloway is a deeply odious character and his shitty views run through Respect like a seaside town's name through a stick of rock..

 

[Gumbert]

but Galloway is vehemently pro-capital punishment and anti-abortion and you're proposing a vote for him

does the contradiction elude you?

not wanting to get bogged down in this laborious thread i want to point out that GG has vehemently denied ever supporting capital punishment ( its the spin of the news of the world) and on the abortion issue those are his own personal feelings not the stance of respect and hes said it enough times..

...vote...Respect....

 

[Dubversion]

GG has vehemently denied ever supporting capital punishment ( its the spin of the news of the world) and

well, that wasn't the impression i got from the lengthy Observer interview recently..

 

[the B]

There's bound to be a Galloway bashing thread for this...