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All done and returned, got the result this morning - negative.You can get one sent to you in the post. I'd certainly be doing one with those symptoms. Hope you feel better soon anyway.
All done and returned, got the result this morning - negative.You can get one sent to you in the post. I'd certainly be doing one with those symptoms. Hope you feel better soon anyway.
All done and returned, got the result this morning - negative.
(Apologies for this derail, and for quoting the above from page 1476 -- am still on-catch-up with this thread -- but ... )Better to move Christmas to the summer like Australia. I'm sure Jesus won't mind.
I still don't really understand how a couple who live together, sleep together etc, can be returning different lateral flow tests. happening to 3 couples I know now, over multiple days with one of them positive and one negative.
No solid claims can yet be made about the level of protection from severe disease and death that vaccines offer against Omicron.I can’t read the article but AZ still protects against a lot of hospitalisations and almost all deaths. That shouldn’t be forgotten.
Protection against any infection at all is a different ball game and requires boosters, potentially regularly.
presumably they're vaccinated, and the vaccine is giving one of them more protection than the other. or one of them's doing the lateral flow tests wrong.I still don't really understand how a couple who live together, sleep together etc, can be returning different lateral flow tests. happening to 3 couples I know now, over multiple days with one of them positive and one negative.
Or one of them has already had it or people just have different immune responses to stuff?presumably they're vaccinated, and the vaccine is giving one of them more protection than the other. or one of them's doing the lateral flow tests wrong.
Or one of them has already had it or people just have different immune responses to stuff?
(I've a friend like this. He's WFH, has barely been out, managed to catch it and was pretty ill. His partner tested negative and has been teaching in a school throughout, dealing with loads of kids a day. I think being a teacher for 20 years probably means she's nails.)
I've already linked to this news in another thread where the possibility came up in conversation some days before it actually happened, but I suppose it should go in this UK thread too:
Covid: Self-isolation cut from 10 days to seven with negative tests
The new rules in England mean some people could end their self-isolation in time for Christmas.www.bbc.co.uk
I dont consider this to be ideal but it is the sort of balancing act that authorities feel the need to do when the level of disruption caused by self-isolation is extremely high. Countries that prioritise minimising the number of infections, and bringing in other measures to keep numbers down, are much less likely to have to do this. But of course the UK has quite different priorities, and so we find ourselves in this predicament, with these resulting compromises.
People infected with Covid in England can stop self-isolating up to three days early if they test negative twice, it has been announced.
They will now be able to end quarantine after seven days instead of 10 by providing negative lateral flow results on day six and day seven.
Yes, I don't think we've seen anything like a peak in West Wales yet. It could peter out at about Bridgend, as the first wave did, but with the increasing infectivity of omicron, and a general ennui around precautions, I wouldn't be too hopeful.Had to go out to pharmacy today....Shopping area and traffic was a clusterfuck if it wasnt for some people wandering around with masks you'd think it was a completely normal Xmas
I expect Swansea will explode with Omicron in a week or 2
In an article for the i, Jane Merrick suggests that whether or not new restrictions get imposed in England after Christmas could depend on whether Covid hospital admissions in London pass the 400-per-day mark. She explains:
Fresh restrictions in England after Christmas could be avoided if hospital admissions in London stay below 400 a day by the end of this week, i understands.
Ministers and scientific advisers are watching closely the number of Covid patients admitted to hospitals in the capital, as it is the leading edge of the Omicron wave and will provide some of the first real-world data on whether the variant is more severe in the UK ...
The latest figure for London admissions, from last Sunday 19 December is 245, and while the daily figure is rising, it has not increased as rapidly as Covid cases in London in the past two weeks. While the figure of 400 is not a hard and fast threshold, it will provide a good guide of whether the huge scale of Omicron cases, above 80,000 in England for the past week, will translate into hospital admissions and put severe pressure on the NHS throughout January.
Merrick also says that, even if Boris Johnson does not impose new legal restrictions after Christmas, he could issue revised guidance as a means of discouraging social mixing.
Groups of no more than six people will be allowed to meet in pubs, cinemas and restaurants in Wales from 26 December, the first minister has said.
And two metre social distancing rules are to return in public places, Mark Drakeford said.
Licensed premises will have to offer table service only, face masks will have to be worn and contact tracing details collected.
Outdoor events will be limited to 50, with 30 indoors.
Life events such as weddings, civil partnerships, funerals and wakes will not be subject to the same limits as other indoor or outdoor events.
But Mr Drakeford said the numbers that can attend will be determined by the ability of the venue to manage social distancing and other reasonable measures.
That would probably explain how my Sis-i-L managed to avoid it, when everyone else in the [3-generation] household had it. Brought in by the youngest sprog, probably from play/school.This may help answer some of the queries above concerning why some prolonged close contacts don't test positive
People testing negative for Covid-19 despite exposure may have ‘immune memory’
Study says some individuals clear virus rapidly due to a strong immune response from existing T-cells, meaning tests record negative resultwww.theguardian.com
Wed 10 Nov 2021 16.45 GMT
We all know that person who, despite their entire household catching Covid-19, has never tested positive for the disease. Now scientists have found an explanation, showing that a proportion of people experience “abortive infection” in which the virus enters the body but is cleared by the immune system’s T-cells at the earliest stage meaning that PCR and antibody tests record a negative result.
About 15% of healthcare workers who were tracked during the first wave of the pandemic in London, England, appeared to fit this scenario.
Hey it's ok gentlegreen - you are making a decision that is right for you - and it's an understandable, sensible decision. And your family members are making the decisions that suit them. Hopefully everyone will accept each others choice, even if they don't fully understand it.I feel like a wimp turning down my sister's 4 generation festive science experiment - but even my 85 year old mother has been a participant for ages - whereas I have been living with only my own bacteria for company - I hope one day I will feel able to be a good great-uncle to the 8 year old but for the moment I view him with suspicion even on Facebook ...
It's not just covid - I haven't benefited from the regular informal vaccinations I got when I was handling public computer keyboards in a university ...I wonder if the suspicion you feel could be reframed as concern your nephew could be carrying the virus. I'm guessing it's the virus not the boy that is troubling you!
All of which, mood music wise, sounds very different to this:I'm not exactly a keen watcher of the experts and the data, but there seems to have been a notable shift in the last 3 days or so. There were fairly clear messages from Whitty and, I think, Sage about taking action quickly, which the cabinet ignored. Since then the mood music seems to have shifted from the experts, for example I heard the news in the car and there were 2 of them saying 'we need to wait for the data, which might be another 2 weeks'. Also, Omicron might not be as bad, though... we don't know yet.
I'm sure that's all true, but the shift seems to have been 'it may be bad, so we need to act now' to 'we don't know, so we shouldn't act now'. Are they just asking different experts?