Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Orang Utan]

Just been told that my work (local council services/public libraries) is now requiring the public to download the NHS app and scan a QR code on entry to any of our buildings. Which is going to be quite a challenge. Well probably have to get people to download the app at the door, and they might not have enough data to do so and they might not even have a smartphone or know how to do such things. In that case, we take their details manually. And if anyone refuses, we still have to let them in.

 

[DaveCinzano]

That'll be written by disappointed local reporters who were hoping to panic buy bog roll.

...Thereby creating shortages, and forcing people to improvise by bulk-buying physical newspapers?

 

[chilango]

Just been told that my work (local council services/public libraries) is now requiring the public to download the NHS app and scan a QR code on entry to any of our buildings. Which is going to be quite a challenge. Well probably have to get people to download the app at the door, and they might not have enough data to do so and they might not even have a smartphone or know how to do such things. In that case, we take their details manually. And if anyone refuses, we still have to let them in.

yeah. I've seen the problems people have been having doing something similar at my local coffee shop.

 

[kabbes]

"Work from home if you can"

Genuine question. What sort of % of workers actually have the authority to make that decision for themselves?

Well, it has meant that whereas my work was previously saying “up to you, but we would rather that you come in” (potentially creating pressure depending on the attitude of individual managers), they sent out an email this morning saying “stay at home unless you find it impossible”. So a shift in corporate attitude

 

[Cid]

Well ahead of the curve on bog roll this time round...

Bidet seats - instant Japanese style toilet

Yes indeed, not an avocado coloured appliance from the 80s, but a contraption to turn your throne into a fully functional arse-washing, drying and deodorising machine. I have recently blagged one free (they’re not cheap, but actually not terrible - this was about £380 iirc)... I must say I’m...

www.urban75.net

 

[Orang Utan]

Watch this space!

I think they’ve walked this back or at least everyone seems to be ignoring the order

 

[Teaboy]

Well, it has meant that whereas my work was previously saying “up to you, but we would rather that you come in” (potentially creating pressure depending on the attitude of individual managers), they sent out an email this morning saying “stay at home unless you find it impossible”. So a shift in corporate attitude

The company my g/f is currently working for started putting pressure on everyone to get back into their Central London office about 3 weeks ago just as it became apparent a serious problem was on the horizon. Set up teams who would do one week on, one week off etc. Quite a bit of pushing and cajoling.

Come yesterday a rather flippant email was sent out along the lines of 'Just see today's announcement. Office will remain open if you still want to come in!'. Absolutely no encouragement for people to stay at home.

This is a large marketing and advertising company where work can easily be done at home for vast majority. Still plenty of scummy attitudes out there.

 

[chilango]

 

[Novatt]

And if anyone refuses, we still have to let them in.

Hm...
I have to(!) download an app, share my details, and only after that I can come in. But if I don't want to, I can still enter. Sounds very strange...

 

[Orang Utan]

Hm...
I have to(!) download an app, share my details, and only after that I can come in. But if I don't want to, I can still enter. Sounds very strange...

It’s just a shit show all round. Staff need to protected from abuse and people can’t be denied access to essential services.

 

[quimcunx]

Yep as it is workers can be left with managements personal attitude to covid and wfh. That could mean the companies who have said wfh til next summer, heres a monitor and chair but can just as easily be an anti mask covid denier or an "if they're not in the office they'll spend all day sunbathing and wanking" arsehole.

 

[Cid]

I had no idea the app was even ready for release. Again, communication.

 

[prunus]

I had no idea the app was even ready for release. Again, communication.

I don’t think it is. They’re going to release it anyway though.

 

[Orang Utan]

I had no idea the app was even ready for release. Again, communication.

I downloaded it yesterday and it’s not ready yet - only for NHS workers and Isle Of Wight residents. It’s ‘mandatory’ across the UK from tomorrow

 

[quimcunx]

I downloaded it yesterday and it’s not ready yet - only for NHS workers and Isle Of Wight residents. It’s ‘mandatory’ across the UK from tomorrow

#worldbeating

 

[xenon]

I downloaded it yesterday and it’s not ready yet - only for NHS workers and Isle Of Wight residents. It’s ‘mandatory’ across the UK from tomorrow

Point of order. It’s released tomorrow. But of course it isn’t mandatory. how could it be, not everyone has a smart phone anyway.

 

[Cid]

I downloaded it yesterday and it’s not ready yet - only for NHS workers and Isle Of Wight residents. It’s ‘mandatory’ across the UK from tomorrow

Fuck me. Just drop this shit out of nowhere don’t they?

My guess is it’ll see low adoption rates even among those who can and would use it; lack of trust, lack of information.

 

[LDC]

Fuck me. Just drop this shit out of nowhere don’t they?

My guess is it’ll see low adoption rates even among those who can and would use it; lack of trust, lack of information.

Yeah, I work in healthcare and follow this shit quite closely, and I had no idea the app was out tomorrow!

 

[two sheds]

Fuck me. Just drop this shit out of nowhere don’t they?

My guess is it’ll see low adoption rates even among those who can and would use it; lack of trust, lack of information.

... lack of app.

 

[Teaboy]

Yeah, I work in healthcare and follow this shit quite closely, and I had no idea the app was out tomorrow!

They clearly have a lot of confidence in it. Seen as the entire track and trace system is largely borked the app does seem somewhat irrelevant at this stage.

 

[Cid]

Yeah, I work in healthcare and follow this shit quite closely, and I had no idea the app was out tomorrow!

I would echo your facepalm, but they seem hollow and insufficient these days

 

[Roadkill]

My guess is it’ll see low adoption rates even among those who can and would use it; lack of trust, lack of information.

I had no idea it was out tomorrow either. Unless and until I'm confident the data is secure and isn't going to end up in the hands of Dominic Cummings' dodgy mates I won't be going anywhere near it.

 

[Orang Utan]

Yeah, I work in healthcare and follow this shit quite closely, and I had no idea the app was out tomorrow!

It’s out already as in you can download it

 

[Steel Icarus]

"Work from home if you can"

Genuine question. What sort of % of workers actually have the authority to make that decision for themselves?

Students would all have to be WFH before I could.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Oh. Just. Fuck. Off.

 

[elbows]

Van Tam will be along to warn 'Dont tear the pathos out of it'.

 

[Badgers]

Yeah, I work in healthcare and follow this shit quite closely, and I had no idea the app was out tomorrow!

#worldbeating

 

[Orang Utan]

Point of order. It’s released tomorrow. But of course it isn’t mandatory. how could it be, not everyone has a smart phone anyway.

They’re saying it is the law and therefore mandatory but then they’re also saying people can refuse to give their details, so how is it mandatory?

 

[chilango]

They’re saying it is the law and therefore mandatory but then they’re also saying people can refuse to give their details, so how is it mandatory?

because we love freedom so much.

 

[xenon]

They’re saying it is the law and therefore mandatory but then they’re also saying people can refuse to give their details, so how is it mandatory?

what, the app? to be honest I haven’t heard much about it. But it can’t be mandatory surely as in all those people who can’t use it. to be honest I only know it’s out tomorrow because I saw an email about it at work today. I knew it was due sometime but yeah.