Steel Icarus
we move
He just claimed transmission in schools is much lower than in the rest of the population. Wtf?
Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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LDC
On est tous des pangolins
That's a half arsed list born of a compromise with elements of his party if ever I've seen one.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
AverageJoe
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Seventh all indoor team sports involving more than six are not permitted. Again for six months
Cid
Proper break this time
It is afaik... although that comes with a lot of caveats. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30249-2/fulltext
bimble
floofy
If it’s not a team just 7 individuals doing exercise in a room it’s fine?
Yeah, don't have to listen to all the bullshit.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
What reasoning can there be for having all but essential (eg lab) classes by zoom for at least the first term. They just hate unis and those left wing lecturers?
Covid 'secure' workplaces should have been law and enforced from the start. they still won't be policed, I'm sure.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I think there is actually concern from lecturers about what Zoom lectures might lead to in the future, in terms of just providing recorded lectures to students and... other things I can't remember
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Shit for supermarket and shop staff. Masks on all day. 
Any actual evidence to back up making them do that?
The infection levels will continue to rise as each new evidence-light measure comes in, just like they have in Spain and France. With an ongoing narrative that it's because people aren't sticking to the rules. Then he'll claim some kind of credit when they start to fall again.
Any actual evidence to back up making them do that? The infection levels will continue to rise as each new evidence-light measure comes in, just like they have in Spain and France. With an ongoing narrative that it's because people aren't sticking to the rules. Then he'll claim some kind of credit when they start to fall again.
AverageJoe
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Don't know. Probably not.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Shit for supermarket and shop staff. Masks on all day.
The infection levels will continue to rise as each new evidence-light measure comes in, just like they have in Spain and France. With an ongoing narrative that it's because people aren't sticking to the rules. Then he'll claim some kind of credit when they start to fall again.
Masks work, they really do.
Its not going to be pleasant for the workers but when has anyone cared about them when bringing out policy?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Shit for supermarket and shop staff. Masks on all day.
None that is likely to get through to you because you have a shit attitude towards masks and many other things in this pandemic.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I think there is actually concern from lecturers about what Zoom lectures might lead to in the future, in terms of just providing recorded lectures to students and... other things I can't remember
I expect so, though I would also expect letting covid have free rein would lead to more zoom in the long or even mid term, rather than less.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Shit for supermarket and shop staff. Masks on all day.
Thousands dead, it's hard times. I wore one for 12 hour shifts in the hospital, it's not that bad ffs.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
When do the universities cash their tuition cheques?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
By not sticking to the rules. Regardless of what the rules actually are.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I wouldnt like to guess, especially as they may be keen to paint certain restrictions as an expansion of local restrictions into new areas rather than a 2nd national lockdown.
I dont even know what exactly we are counting as lockdown this time around, and it was a loose term the frist time that the government didnt want to use themselves.
elbows
Well-Known Member
As long as the grouse is masked, did not travel by taxi, worked from home where possible and is covid-secure.
Table service in pubs, masks worn in taxis.
I thought these were already the rules. Certainly how it's worked where I've been. Though Though I have heard an anecdote about some people wearing masks waiting for a cab, then taking them off inside. Absolute wankers. At least this may give some notional force behind telling passengers to wear them.
Gyms are still open then. (I should start going back.)
I thought these were already the rules. Certainly how it's worked where I've been. Though Though I have heard an anecdote about some people wearing masks waiting for a cab, then taking them off inside. Absolute wankers. At least this may give some notional force behind telling passengers to wear them.
Gyms are still open then. (I should start going back.
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HalloweenJack
Don’t ya hate it when that happens?
Lockdown 2
Won't happen.
Unsustainable and unworkable politically, economically , socially-pick your adverb, but even with the mentioned threat of using the army..no
Won't happen.
Unsustainable and unworkable politically, economically , socially-pick your adverb, but even with the mentioned threat of using the army..no
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
The main one being we cannot treat 'schools' as some homogeneous entity. That report makes very clear that any 'safe' measure of transmission applies, from very small studies, to children apparently under 10 years old. And states that,
If young children are less infectious than adults, then there must be an age when they start to become as infectious as older individuals. The French and Korean studies suggest that this might occur during adolescence, which could have major implications when schools, colleges, and universities return fully, as they must do soon.
Another side issue from that article is,
It is likely that children from low-income backgrounds will probably be more adversely affected than children from high-income backgrounds.
Well, yes. But maybe this is true for education in general where pupils from low income backgrounds are expelled at the drop of a hat compared to children from privileged socio-economic backgrounds. Maybe it's about time we addressed that if we are constantly going to use economically deprived pupils as an excuse for keeping schools open.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i admire your optimism
elbows
Well-Known Member
One of the lessons the first time around was that in the event of a bad pandemic, 'it cant happen here, this idea is unthinkable let alone workable' is unsafe territory that can be washed away in an instant.
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