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beesonthewhatnow said:
I'm making the best of what I've got, so what?
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I've nothing whatsoever against you making the best of what you've got.

I just think

No, I live in a second floor flat and not being able to be as active as I usually am is utterly shit.
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is an utterly disingenuous answer to being asked about your living conditions. Particularly when you're calling for people to be shot.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
I'd rather just go with the rifle option tbh.
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It's just a bit of a waste of your energy. Most people are sticking by the restrictions. The minority of idiot who aren't, they were always going to ruin it for you. The same people flouted the restrictions in every other country in the world too, because there's always a minority of idiots, everywhere. You might as well be angry at the tide coming in.
 
This is completely impossible to enforce - fines would not work and threatening people with a criminal record for trying to picnic would just be mad. Seriously, expecting everyone not at work to stay indoors indefinitely apart from when they are buying food it was just never going to happen. Most people are keeping to the rules, you just don't see them for obvious reasons.
 
I think it's easy to over-estimate how busy it is in London and other city centres, despite my own posts moaning about it. I went out today for a bit and it seemed packed, but in reality buses were running past nearly empty, round the shops at Holloway Road there was a steady trickle of people but it's normally absolutely packed round there on a Saturday and at one point I was wandering down the middle of Seven Sisters Road for ages because there was so little traffic. Fifty or so people on a street you expect to be empty seems like loads, until you consider that under normal conditions there could well be a couple of thousand people in the same space.
 
Very, very quiet in Swansea too (we cycled just to the supermarket -- this was the first time on bikes rather than walking! )

Quieter than Friday in fact, despite the weather being better today.

(And before anyone starts going on, we've become increasingly to the point of insanely careful about mega-distancing, when outside -- and we're outside for short spells only).
 
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smokedout said:
I think it's easy to over-estimate how busy it is in London and other city centres, despite my own posts moaning about it. I went out today for a bit and it seemed packed, but in reality buses were running past nearly empty, round the shops at Holloway Road there was a steady trickle of people but it's normally absolutely packed round there on a Saturday and at one point I was wandering down the middle of Seven Sisters Road for ages because there was so little traffic. Fifty or so people on a street you expect to be empty seems like loads, until you consider that under normal conditions there could well be a couple of thousand people in the same space.
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I think the conditions of the lockdown do bad things to the psyche, turn you a bit stasi. The other day I was stood in my bedroom overlooking the road - it's a pretty busy road, and I'm a block away from the spar in one direction and the park in the other so there's a regular stream of people passing doing their daily mandated walk or shop: and even though I know they're probably all totally within their rights to be out there, I found myself judging each person as they passed.
 
Kevbad the Bad said:
My neighbour (works in admin between nhs and private medicine) reckons that most nhs beds outside of the big cities won’t be required for covid19, because social isolation will reduce infections enough. The problem will then be pressure to restart surgery for other serious conditions, which will lead to reinfection, and to reduce social isolation, which will have the same effect. In the absence of a vaccine, and without total heavy lockdown, how will you ever stop this cycle?

Is he being both optimistic (beds not full) and pessimistic (Reinfection)?

He also thinks that social isolation will be relaxed in time for VE Day. Cynical or realistic?
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Admin?
 
killer b said:
I think the conditions of the lockdown do bad things to the psyche, turn you a bit stasi. The other day I was stood in my bedroom overlooking the road - it's a pretty busy road, and I'm a block away from the spar in one direction and the park in the other so there's a regular stream of people passing doing their daily mandated walk or shop: and even though I know they're probably all totally within their rights to be out there, I found myself judging each person as they passed.
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Oh I’ve been judging people in a stasi like manner for a long time before this shit kicked off :oops: :D
 
killer b said:
I think the conditions of the lockdown do bad things to the psyche, turn you a bit stasi. The other day I was stood in my bedroom overlooking the road - it's a pretty busy road, and I'm a block away from the spar in one direction and the park in the other so there's a regular stream of people passing doing their daily mandated walk or shop: and even though I know they're probably all totally within their rights to be out there, I found myself judging each person as they passed.
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I overheard a couple of people who clearly knew each other saying hello and stopping to chat on the street outside my window earlier and I got up to check they were staying 2 metres away :facepalm: :D (they were)

My town is pretty deserted though the supermarkets are busy. Usually the market place would be packed with cars and people on a Saturday. Only one death here as far as I've heard (so far).

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Thora said:
I overheard a couple of people who clearly knew each other saying hello and stopping to chat on the street outside my window earlier and I got up to check they were staying 2 metres away :facepalm: :D (they were)
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I stopped (2 metres away) to chat to a friend I bumped into on the street yesterday, and people tutted at us as they passed. :D
 
bimble said:
This is completely impossible to enforce - fines would not work and threatening people with a criminal record for trying to picnic would just be mad. Seriously, expecting everyone not at work to stay indoors indefinitely apart from when they are buying food it was just never going to happen. Most people are keeping to the rules, you just don't see them for obvious reasons.
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I get the need for outdoor exercise but I don't think going out for a picnic is ok, personally and I'm a bit baffled that anyone would, although I do obviously understand why people would want to.

I've not left the house for 18 days, along with my daughter, but we do have a garden (and I've also managed to secure weekly shopping slots by some usual but also selfish planning ahead) and my family is also quite sloth like, in general.
On top of that my kids are older and other issues have meant we've had less money/time to go out prior to this, so this is an easier extension to that than it might have been otherwise, albeit that we were coming to the end of that.
I've had a few arguments with my son, who is wfh, re his lunch time strolls only apparently taking place when he wants to visit the corner shop, too.

I would prefer to leave outdoors for people who have no option but to go out and/or who will just benefit far more than we would for it.

beesonthewhatnow - one adult to shop, though, not one person. Single parents, or two parent families where one person is having to self-isolate within their own home, with kids too young to be safely left home alone (or who wouldn't understand the isolation rules in the second example) would obviously have to accompany the adult shopping, too.
 
William of Walworth said:
Very, very quiet in Swansea too (we cycled just to the supermarket -- this was the first time on bikes rather than walking! )

Quieter than Friday in fact, despite the weather being better today.

(And before anyone starts going on, we've become increasingly to the point of insanely careful about mega-distancing, when outside -- and we're outside for short spells only).
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And did you both go in, again? definitely judging
 
We had that. We saw one of El's classmate's and were having a socially distanced chat and some bloke started shouting at us from the other side of the road :facepalm::D
 
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