Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Artaxerxes]

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, has said the government could ban exercise outdoors if people flout lockdown rules.
After saying earlier that sunbathing is against lockdown rules, he told Andrew Marr that if people flout them “we might have to take further action”.
“I understand how difficult these measures are, of course I do. But the truth is the more people go out from home, the more the virus spreads,” he said.
“We’ve said because of the positive benefits to your physical and your mental health that it’s ok to exercise on your own or with members of your own household.
“But if the result of that is that too many people go out and flout the other rules because they say ‘well if I can exercise, then it’s fine for me to do other things’, then I’m afraid we will have to take action.
“My message is really clear, if you don’t want us to have to take the step to ban exercise of all forms outside of your own home then you’ve got to follow the rules.”

Lockdowns going to be stricter by end of the week.

 

[zahir]

It's trying to sensationalise the government's pandemic plan - which is actually turning out to be a good basis for dealing with covid.

Would you defend the absence of a testing programme?

 

[danny la rouge]

 

[frogwoman]

Round here park and woods still open and most, but not everyone, are behaving themselves, hardly saw anyone yesterday. It's not the park that's the problem its the narrow path down to the river which is nerve racking. That and the fact that a lot of people in my road dont seem to think it applies to them at all and are carrying on having workmen over ffs.

 

[LDC]

Lockdowns going to be stricter by end of the week.

Yeah, I agree, think we'll get tighter restrictions very soon.

 

[Artaxerxes]

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Easy to self discipline when you live in a fucking castle in the middle of a thousand acres plus garden.

Round here park and woods still open and most, but not everyone, are behaving themselves, hardly saw anyone yesterday. It's not the park that's the problem its the narrow path down to the river which is nerve racking. That and the fact that a lot of people in my road dont seem to think it applies to them at all and are carrying on having workmen over ffs.

Wife has just left for her morning walk in Epping forest, apparently it's heaving already

 

[bimble]

The need to not die or cause other people to die is a greater priority than the desire for some green space.

It is totally unfair, and this situation is going to exacerbate the obvious differences between people, but that's just the way it is currently. Maybe afterwards it'll result in those differences being sorted out, but for the moment it's just shitter for some people and there's no way round that.

I know. I am one of the people for whom this is a total breeze because of where I moved to last summer but if I was still in Lambeth would be pretty devastated at losing access to that wide open space for 1hr a day. Hampstead Heath Greenwich park still open, just seems so arbitrary and deeply unfair.

 

[kabbes]

Three road cyclists queuing outside the local shop this morning for their lattes and cappuccinos

 

[frogwoman]

Easy to self discipline when you live in a fucking castle in the middle of a thousand acres plus garden.



Wife has just left for her morning walk in Epping forest, apparently it's heaving already

Idk I live in a very middle class area and I've been shocked at how people are behaving whereas my mates in london are taking it a lot more seriously

 

[platinumsage]

The government keep saying "based on the science", so if they're going for a stronger lockdown I'd like to see some reports from contact-tracing in other countries where the virus was contracted in passing while outdoors.

 

[LDC]

Idk I live in a very middle class area and I've been shocked at how people are behaving whereas my mates in london are taking it a lot more seriously

Yeah, some of the ways it's being flouted by different demographics are kinda interesting.

 

[frogwoman]

I hope they dont ban walks mainly as I dont drive and I have to get to the shop somehow. My mum has chronic pain and needs to walk a lot although we can set up exercise stuff in the garden I guess. Although that is a bit nerve racking itself as we've got a shared driveway with the neighbour whose been having workmen round this week

 

[kabbes]

...and now they’re each going to sit on the village green to drink them

 

[kabbes]

The government keep saying "based on the science", so if they're going for a stronger lockdown I'd like to see some reports from contact-tracing in other countries where the virus was contracted in passing while outdoors.

It’s not just in passing though, is it? Those cyclists have come from God knows where and have now potentially spread the virus into this local shop, which the local residents— mostly elderly — are relying on for their supplies.

But hey, they’re okay and they haven’t had to interrupt their hobby

 

[frogwoman]

I'm a bit worried about how it will affect my mum if they ban walking etc, I mean we will deal with it but the lockdown rules already causing quite a bit of tension tbh.

 

[bimble]

Do cappuccinos count as essential items down there kabbes ? The shop could perhaps just not.

 

[frogwoman]

I guess it would still be ok to walk to the shops every few days?

 

[danny la rouge]

Easy to self discipline when you live in a fucking castle in the middle of a thousand acres plus garden.

The self discipline of having several palaces to choose from and the RAF to fly you to whichever one you fancy and servants to carry on providing you with the fucking lifestyle you fucking have all the fucking time anyway.

“Here in Balmoral one really notices nobody is out and about on the private grouse moors”. As usual.

 

[Plumdaff]

Here in Cardiff it seems as quiet as ever (although we're only venturing around our local streets for walks) but a friend's sister who lives in Pwllheli says that once again they have had an influx of holidaymakers

 

[wayward bob]

The need to not die or cause other people to die is a greater priority than the desire for some green space.

the need for some green space can prevent deaths by suicide. but i guess those people were never important/useful enough in the first place to count.

 

[frogwoman]

I 100% agree tbh but i dont think anyone where I live is in that position (yet) and I've seen some unbelievable shit in the last week. Like a guy fishing on a stretch of pavement less than 1 metre wide next to a busy road, where as far as I know fishing is illegal anyway.

Or my neighbour having workmen round to do his carpets.

 

[kabbes]

Do cappuccinos count as essential items down there kabbes ? The shop could perhaps just not.

I really wish they wouldn’t. They’re clinging on financially, though, and I guess they don’t want to give up any revenue they can avoid. I don’t really feel I’m in a position to tell them to stop it. Seems outrageously stupid to me, though.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I 100% agree tbh but i dont think anyone where I live is in that position (yet) and I've seen some unbelievable shit in the last week. Like a guy fishing on a stretch of pavement less than 1 metre wide next to a busy road, where as far as I know fishing is illegal anyway.

You should have pushed him in.

 

[frogwoman]

I didn't wanna get that close there was a car coming as well.

You should have pushed him in.

 

[danny la rouge]

I guess it would still be ok to walk to the shops every few days?

It’ll need to be. Because no fucker has any delivery slots.

I have a slew of underlying health issues. I really, really, really don’t want to go to the shops. But having decided not to stockpile toilet roll, I have to. Because even the one delivery I did manage to get, they just left toilet roll off the order. No swaps. Not even bizarre ones. Like pineapple instead. Just ignored the request entirely.

People who think they’re invincible in the aisle and just walk right up to you don’t seem the care that it’s not about them catching it or not. It’s about them being potential carriers and giving it to me. The selfish cunts.

 

[frogwoman]

It’ll need to be. Because no fucker has any delivery slots.

I have a slew of underlying health issues. I really, really, really don’t want to go to the shops. But having decided not to stockpile toilet roll, I have to. Because even the one delivery I did manage to get, they just left toilet roll off the order. No swaps. Not even bizarre ones. Like pineapple instead. Just ignored the request entirely.

People who think they’re invincible in the aisle and just walk right up to you don’t seem the care that it’s not about them catching it or not. It’s about them being potential carriers and giving it to me. The selfish cunts.

On the other side a guy did stick his head out the window of his car and yell at people in the bakery queue i was standing in to go home. dont know where he was going that was so important!

 

[frogwoman]

It’ll need to be. Because no fucker has any delivery slots.

I have a slew of underlying health issues. I really, really, really don’t want to go to the shops. But having decided not to stockpile toilet roll, I have to. Because even the one delivery I did manage to get, they just left toilet roll off the order. No swaps. Not even bizarre ones. Like pineapple instead. Just ignored the request entirely.

People who think they’re invincible in the aisle and just walk right up to you don’t seem the care that it’s not about them catching it or not. It’s about them being potential carriers and giving it to me. The selfish cunts.

Dodging people in the supermarket is turning into a fuckin military operation.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Dodging people in the supermarket is turning into a fuckin military operation.

Esp. when fuckwits stop in the middle of the aisle to check their bloody phone.

 

[frogwoman]

Like a woman came into the aisle to look for something, I moved two metres away to do more shopping to almost bump into someone else who was just standing there!

 

[bimble]

Supermarket isles should be made one way traffic for now. That would be simple & help a fair bit .