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It's fucking selfish pricks like that, that are going to result in harsher restrictions for the rest of us, and more deaths, the cunts. :mad:

That's for sure and to take a longview no one is going anywhere till cases are isolated and infections cease because obviously it will only start again if allowed.. tis brutal situation..
 
Fuck. I expect the real impact of this isn't going to be at all clear until we're able to see total mortality figures for this period, and set them against previous years. :(
As I posted on the world thread, it's likely the real death toll will be double and perhaps up to four times as much as the official figures, from stats coming out of Italy. And we appear now to be doing a full-Italy here. :(
 
And still large gaterings are happening.. this makes infections very hard to isolate and at this stage this should not be happening.
I agree, of course, that there shouldn't be large gatherings or picnics. However, although I don't know how big this park is, there seemed to be an element of hyperbole in the article. Things like there were 'reports of' thousands attending in a single morning. :hmm:
 
Fucking hell, what a briefing. They are whispering and keep thanking each other & reporters. Gove is talking like a little naughty girl who shat herself on purpose despeately trying to speak RP English. No one listening to these losers is going to stay at home.

Meanwhile:


powerful stuff, clap harder next thursday and shout more PPE higher wages, etc.
 
It's a big park. 190 acres. 'Thousands' could still be less than ten people per acre.
Fair enough. I wondered that but rejected the idea due to the mention of what sounded like a single car park (must be a bi 'un). But having said all that I still have my doubts that there were literally thousands there on a single morning. Bit of a police press office/council type story.
 
Another 708 deaths today bringing the total to more than 4,000.

Still quite a few cars on the roads and people walking about. Sadly it's these muppets that will lead to an even more stringent lockdown.

Jokers.
 
Yes, when someone who as Covid19 sneezes. Their is evidence to show the general wearing of masks isn't effective and can lead to false sense of security. There anecdotal observations of mask wearers using them incorrectly, touching their face to adjust, remove etc. Using the wrong type of mask and so on.

Handwashing, social distancing, self isolation if you have the symptoms. I mean wear a mask if you want but let's not have this insisting against the evidence that we all should. That's mad and a bit dangerous, the logic of it.

The WHO are reviewing their advice based on new evidence. It would surely be mad and a bit dangerous to ignore that. There does appear to be quite a bit of both evidence and expert opinion that supports wearing any form of face covering as likely to reduce infections, some of which is summarised here.

As someone entirely unqualified to comment it does seem quite likely to me that a very small and so far only theoretical possibility of increased risk of contact infection is significantly outweighed by almost eliminating infection from droplets which are thought to be the main means of transmission. And to be honest if someone is going to cough all over me, or a shelf of food in a supermarket, I'd rather they were wearing any kind of mask when they did. Seems like a bit of a no brainer to be honest and people saying oh no but someone might touch something with the virus on and then touch their mask and then it might get in their mouth, as opposed to just touching something and then touching their mouth, or someone might not wear one properly and then thats really worse than not wearing a mask because, well reasons, isn't very persuasive.
 
I agree, of course, that there shouldn't be large gatherings or picnics. However, although I don't know how big this park is, there seemed to be an element of hyperbole in the article. Things like there were 'reports of' thousands attending in a single morning. :hmm:

Half of them journalists reporting on how many people were there no doubt.
 

That is a very cynical picture. They're clearly random cyclists stopped at a junction, and the telephoto lens is massively exaggerating how close together they are. That shows a full cycle ASL, and a crossing. I.e that front spotted line to the parallel white continuous line at the back? It's more than 10 meters.

e2a: I don't mean the end of the cycle lane you can see through the woman's legs btw, that's about 35 meters away.
 
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All this talk about the general population moving to wearing masks is pointless, there's not enough for front-line workers.

Thats one of the traditional arguments against advising the public to wear them. But there are others, and the traditional western view on this issue is crumbling before our eyes.

I will not be surprised if the UK eventually follows, but I also wont be surprised if there is much UK establishment resistance still.
 
One of those hire bikes has just ridden near my window....bet they are not being disinfected between being used.
 
Have you seen the interview with the Korean doctor well he's actually the head of infectious diseases?

Not that specifically. But I have heard and read a few things about the usage of masks. I'm not disagreeing with the medical scientific advice regarding their useage but going by what the WHO say.
 
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Chatting to a mate earlier. He mentioned it's speculated the large number of cases in the Cardif / Gwent area was perhaps down to a rugby international and the Cheltenham festival a week or so before the lock down. (was in relation to the post about the gathering at car park's on prev page.)
 
Not that specifically. But I have heard and read a few things about the usage of masks. I'm not disagreeing with the medical scientific advice regarding their useage but going by what the WHO say.
Do you not think that the WHO might be being pragmatic, what would be the point in telling people to wear masks if they can't get any and if health services even are struggling to get enough?
 
I'm just utterly fed up of cunts taking the piss, we need a proper lockdown, now. Enforced with fucking guns. No going out. Full stop. Don't care where you live, city or countryside. One person only to go to the shops. Fuck your exercise, fuck your oh so important walk. Stay indoors you stupid, stupid cunts.
 
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