Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
In my particular case all through the covid period my lodger was working as a care assistant in a hospital in N London - and used to get tests and PPI sent to his home (ie my house) by courier & had some spares left over.Ah ok. So 'got someone else to do my test for me' actually meant 'got someone else to do my test for me'
So the test was one supplied in connection with his work (in 2020-22).
And it was me wot took the test.
But the point is - I was REFUSED a test at my GP surgery nearly 24 hours before (but supplied with a mask).
We love the NHS.
xenon my lodger was a qualified person I thought - having been refused by my own GP surgery. Apart from him I guess I could have gone to the dementia home I sometimes visit in Croydon - if they still do tests that is (they did in March).
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
Depends entirely on a load of circumstances we know nothing about. It seems a bit weird to jump on this as automatically "out of order".
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Of course you were refused at your GP for a Covid test.
Do you have any idea how much clinical time and resources it would take up doing Covid tests on everyone that called up and wanted one? When you can get them cheap from the chemist and they need no medical skills to be done?
Honestly this stuff pisses me off with people moaning about the NHS, there's a fuck load of misunderstanding about how medicine and the NHS works.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I'm keeping an eye on him. Seems OK so far - not surprising though considering my test was negative.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I didn't call up and ask for a test. It was they who called me up and demanded I attend the surgery to measure my blood pressure and ask me questions about eating 5 a day,how much I drink (alcohol wise) and whether I clean my teeth.
How much of their "resource" is employed asking stupid questions over and over again - and refusing a request for medical assistance to boot?
Don't go there.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
It's following guidelines which through this whole thing have officially been in lockstep with whatever the government has said. But you wouldn't do the same with flu would you. My boss has been ace especially with my Covid related fears but that seemed odd. Just have to get on with it now is and possibly has been for ages the overwhelmingly most common view.
Ground Elder
Well-Known Member
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Wait till you're over 60 (or whatever).
No escaping the checklist.
Their funding and CQC rating depend on it. (? seems a bit out of date here)
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
It's so great working in medicine; shouted at for being in the pockets of big pharma and just pushing drugs, shouted at for trying to give health advice and keep people off medication unless absolutely needed.
And yeah, we're totally motivated by checklists and ratings, that's definitely why we try and offer lifestyle advice and take care of people's health as holistically as we can.
I wonder why moral is so fucking low in the NHS?
And yeah, we're totally motivated by checklists and ratings, that's definitely why we try and offer lifestyle advice and take care of people's health as holistically as we can.
I wonder why moral is so fucking low in the NHS?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Fortunately my GP herself (should the iron-clad patient repelling booking system yield an appointment) is more resilient than that.It's so great working in medicine; shouted at for being in the pockets of big pharma and just pushing drugs, shouted at for trying to give health advice and keep people off medication unless absolutely needed.
And yeah, we're totally motivated by checklists and ratings, that's definitely why we try and offer lifestyle advice and take care of people's health as holistically as we can.
I wonder why moral is so fucking low in the NHS?
And she knows or lives near Matthew Sweet - so I doubt she is swayed by conspiraloons.
Even so she in not immune to going through 5 a day checklists. Since when has 5 a day been a medical matter?
True but the rate of false negatives is pretty low by the time you have developed symptoms if done right at least.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
I mean there has to be some level of balance. If people are saying 'test', but then if you get a negative, 'oh it might be false negative' it all becomes a bit pointless. On top of that hardly anyone is testing really ime, and where I work I'm seeing patients face to face every day with coughs etc. who are all out and about anyway and very, very few people are wearing masks for anything.
I hardly wear a mask now. I was the only person I knew wearing one for month. I still wear one if a train is crowded or going to a healthcare setting but that is about it.
Edited to add - The train is probably a waste of time no pretence that its for anybody or I'd do it on quieter trains. This shows stupidity as well as selfishness!
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Looks like people might be able to buy covid vaccines from next year if you don't get them on the NHS. Don't look cheap mind.
www.theguardian.com
Covid booster jabs could go on sale privately in UK in 2024
Health officials reiterate support for private provision as lower age limit for NHS booster vaccines raised to 65
So the senior manager for our client tests positive and holds a packed meeting in a non-ventilated room in our offices regardless. Somebody raises the alarm that Covid is likely to be going round the office and the IT team from head office scarper and we try to get the various vulnerable people out of the office. Our manager come out of the meeting ranting and raving that we all just have to live with Covid (at me (as usual)). But then the law is totally on his side. We have no protections against stupid spreader behaviour. 68 year old fella with serious health conditions - he struggles to breath at the best of times - was hanging around in a mask as if that would protect him.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I'm alright living with it. I just don't wanna die with it.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Looks like they are nervous about the new variant
Covid and flu winter jabs to be brought forward in England
Vaccines for the most vulnerable will start being given in September instead of October in England.
www.bbc.co.uk
I didnt get the spring vaccine. I qualified for it but because the previous one caused problems with my liver, I was told skip it and cocoon as much as possibleLooks like they are nervous about the new variant
Covid and flu winter jabs to be brought forward in England
Vaccines for the most vulnerable will start being given in September instead of October in England.www.bbc.co.uk
Is the Autumn one a bivalent one again?
ska invita
back on the other side
Just an anecdote but I was in hospital yesterday having some post COVID lung function tests and the doctor I was with was saying she and another on the ward had just recovered from new COVID strain and it was rougher than previous time. Just an anecdote but it immediately made me wonder if I should try and blag another vaccine shot. Hard to know what to doLooks like they are nervous about the new variant
Covid and flu winter jabs to be brought forward in England
Vaccines for the most vulnerable will start being given in September instead of October in England.www.bbc.co.uk
elbows
Well-Known Member
The picture is complex.
Much of the advice considered ideal is to use a newer monovalent one that targets the XBB strain. But the bivalent ones from the past are still on the scene too, and much of the UK advice places logistical realities and timeliness as the top priority.
And for cases where mRNA vaccines are not considered clinically suitable, Sanofi/GSK AS03-adjuvanted monovalent beta variant (VidPrevtyn Beta) is listed.
For example see this page from July:
Quick question..before I attempt to read that..is pfizers vaccine monovalent?The picture is complex.
Much of the advice considered ideal is to use a newer monovalent one that targets the XBB strain. But the bivalent ones from the past are still on the scene too, and much of the UK advice places logistical realities and timeliness as the top priority.
And for cases where mRNA vaccines are not considered clinically suitable, Sanofi/GSK AS03-adjuvanted monovalent beta variant (VidPrevtyn Beta) is listed.
For example see this page from July:
elbows
Well-Known Member
Cant say from brand alone, since both Moderna and Pfizer do the XBB monovalent and the previous bivalent versions.
And I dont know what the current supply realities are for the UK. And back in July the new monovalent ones had the 'subject to licensure' caveat attached but Im out of date as to whether that license has since been granted.
Ok..thanks very much.
I'm between 2 minds about vaccination..because of the reaction to bivalent moderna last year..and the fact I am mostly cocooning.
I'll check with the consultants and see what they think.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Looks like yet another one, Bimervax, got approved at the start of the month but I've no idea whether they plan to use it this coming season:
www.gov.uk
Bimervax COVID-19 vaccine authorised by MHRA
The new vaccine from HIPRA Human Health has been authorised after meeting the MHRA’s required safety, quality and effectiveness standards.
elbows
Well-Known Member
It is possible that their nervousness was enhanced by a care home outbreak of the new variant.Looks like they are nervous about the new variant
Covid and flu winter jabs to be brought forward in England
Vaccines for the most vulnerable will start being given in September instead of October in England.www.bbc.co.uk
I've just posted about that here: #533 but I will quote a bit that may have especially influenced their decision to move the vaccination programme timing:
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