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Popped into Costa this afternoon. Genuinely the 1st time I've been a bit freaked by the possibility of getting Covid as it was quite busy. Our borough Lambeth has the highest infection rate in the country ~3%.
 
I went into Morrisons on Christmas eve and it was rammed, I couldn't believe it but there were a few couples walking about without masks. I got my stuff and left as soon as possible.
 
As expected, no new restrictions for England yet.

England will have no further Covid restrictions over New Year’s Eve, Boris Johnson has ruled, meaning nightclubs and mass events can continue but people will be urged to test before seeing those who are vulnerable.

After a virtual briefing with England’s chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, and the government’s chief scientific adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, No 10 said the data would continue to be reviewed but that no new steps would be taken before the new year.

The decision makes England an outlier in the UK, after Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland put limits on social gatherings and mass events.

Instead, Johnson and the health secretary, Sajid Javid, will put an emphasis on personal responsibility, despite warnings from health bosses and trade unions, stressing the needs to wear masks indoors, keep areas ventilated and to take tests before seeing elderly or vulnerable relatives.
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www.theguardian.com

England hospital Covid admissions highest since February; France announces new curbs – as it happened

No walk-in PCR tests available in England for a few hours due to ‘high demand’; French PM announces new measures
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Suspect twats from wales/Scotland will head over the border for NYE revelry, spreading it about a bit more.
 
Dogsauce said:
Suspect twats from wales/Scotland will head over the border for NYE revelry, spreading it about a bit more.
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You can still have a 30 person house party in Wales, our restrictions aren't strict (I suspect partly because the Treasury won't give the devolved nations any furlough cash)
 
Jeebus on t'bike.
Just looked at the figures.
I know the "festive" season is distorting the picture ...
but even so, it is quite distressing.

As yet, I'm still not really convinced that omicron is actually less severe - I don't think it has reached the very vulnerable.
I hope I'm wrong on that, I really do. Perhaps the vaccinations will help reduce the death toll.
 
Expect to be knocked down for saying this but I think this is probably the correct decision. Leave it to people to make their own risk assessments allied with mass testing. After almost two years we know where we are with the virus and it is time for the state to take a back seat in terms of social control.
 
kenny g said:
Expect to be knocked down for saying this but I think this is probably the correct decision. Leave it to people to make their own risk assessments allied with mass testing. After almost two years we know where we are with the virus and it is time for the state to take a back seat in terms of social control.
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yeah, because that's going to go brilliantly.
 
kenny g said:
Expect to be knocked down for saying this but I think this is probably the correct decision. Leave it to people to make their own risk assessments allied with mass testing. After almost two years we know where we are with the virus and it is time for the state to take a back seat in terms of social control.
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You are assuming that there is such a thing as common sense ...
 
StoneRoad said:
You are assuming that there is such a thing as common sense ...
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Tell me about it... one of my biggest political awakenings came from seeing people's initial reaction and the mass parties the days before lockdowns. Seeing the pitiful footfall in Westfield Stratford this morning on the way back from swimming my faith has been reignited.
 
kenny g said:
Expect to be knocked down for saying this but I think this is probably the correct decision. Leave it to people to make their own risk assessments allied with mass testing. After almost two years we know where we are with the virus and it is time for the state to take a back seat in terms of social control.
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Aye, I'm wary but at current status I can only see a lockdown being of any use if it stops the NHS imploding. Its certainly far to late (by 3-4 weeks) to stop Omicron spreading like wildfire so shutting the gates now does very little aside from make people feel a bit better at the cost of another X weeks of isolation at the darkest time of year.

After 2 years and 3 boosts if we're not able to manage then we're in deep shit. I'm in one of the vulnerable groups but at this point I just want us to start dealing with Covid being resident in the population, its not going away but we're protected as we can be by now. I'll maintain facemask discipline and distancing, hope that others do the same, but I just want to live my life again.
 
Artaxerxes said:
Aye, I'm wary but at current status I can only see a lockdown being of any use if it stops the NHS imploding.

After 2 years and 3 boosts if we're not able to manage then we're in deep shit. I'm in one of the vulnerable groups but at this point I just want us to start dealing with Covid being resident in the population, its not going away but we're protected as we can be by now. I'll maintain facemask discipline and distancing, hope that others do the same, but I just want to live my life again.
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Agree 100%. Having spent a few beautiful days with my 81 year old father for his Birthday which was missed last year and having witnessed the effect of lockdown on my children and their friends I really can't see that as the way out of this.
 
I don't know why but I'm genuinely shocked that the government is doing absolutely nothing. And they were setting us up for it all week, getting their patsies at the BBC to sell the 'omicron is much milder' line in advance.

For some reason I still think that because these people are able to passably impersonate human beings, that there must be something to them besides short term self interest and abject moral cowardice. I'd even settle for medium-term self interest at this point, as it might accidentally lead to something slightly better than the worst possible outcome for everyone else.
 
SpookyFrank said:
I don't know why but I'm genuinely shocked that the government is doing absolutely nothing. And they were setting us up for it all week, getting their patsies at the BBC to sell the 'omicron is much milder' line in advance.

For some reason I still think that because these people are able to passably impersonate human beings, that there must be something to them besides short term self interest and abject moral cowardice. I'd even settle for medium-term self interest at this point, as it might accidentally lead to something slightly better than the worst possible outcome for everyone else.
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Maybe it’s just that they don’t think the hospitals will be overwhelmed.
 
The solution may become preventing the co-morbities, and yes that includes the millions of preventable type II diabetes, through taxing to fuck processed crap foods and treating them the same as tobacco.

Dealing with the issue of consanguineous marriage and making kidney, liver and lung health a national priority.
 
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