Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
That 7-day average has dropped again, now down -18.4%, and that's almost 2 weeks since the schools went back, so somewhat surprising.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
got a batch of Flowflex tests from the Government - so relieved, as i’ve not been able to do tests properly until now, so have avoided doing it unless i’m going to a social thing, and not doing it for work - we’re only strongly encouraged to do it rather than instructed to, so it was easy just to not bother.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Presumably because they say you dont have to stick these very far up nostrils?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
they’re nasal only, so you don’t have to gag yourself. I never managed to successfully touch my tonsils at all let alone for as long as the instructions said, so I gave up trying. now i can do this three times a week and feel confident that i’ve done it properly.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I've found the post-sampling gagging and sneezing near to intolerable, so I eagerly opened my new pack of tests to see if they're any different from the previous ones, but sadly not. Gagging and sneezing, here we come
I'm finding this hard to believe. We have groups of staff testing positive daily.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Even if cases are rising in some segments of society, or regions, age groups etc, this is often masked in the overall figures if big falls are happening elsewhere.
I'll be looking into how case numbers are going in different age groups and regions and will have something to say on this within the next couple of days.
Spandex
A crazy bulbous punchbag of sound
A couple of things to remember:
Reported case numbers may have come down a bit in the last week, but the numbers are still huge. The lowest reported daily new case number in the last month was yesterday's 26,628. That's just in one day. In pre-vaccine times that would be disastrous. It still is disastrous - 201 reported deaths today; the daily death toll currently averaging 139 deaths per day over the last week (that's equivalent to 50,735 deaths per year).
That figure is the national figure. There's considerable variation across the countries. Glasgow has 873.5 cases per 100,000 on the latest available info (up to 10th Sept); Hackney has 171 cases per 100,000.
elbows
Well-Known Member
For example in regards what I said in my previous post, look at the 7 day totals by age group in Scotland. Younger age groups tend to have been responsible for the most cases, with more dramatic rises and falls, and earlier timing of trajectory changes than older groups. But when it comes to things like hospitalisations, even when the rises in positive cases in older age groups have been more modest, they tend to drive a significant chunk of hospitalisations. This is part of the reason why dramatic fall in overall case numbers sometimes only leads to a modest drop or plateau of hospitalisation figures.
I'm resorting to Scotland again now because their trends have been more dramatic and obvious, but also because I can just go to the following website to get this graphic, rather than England where I tend to feel the need to make my own graphics in a way that involves some tedious arsing around with data manually in a spreadsheet. So I need more time before I can show the age-related picture for England.
www.travellingtabby.com
I'm resorting to Scotland again now because their trends have been more dramatic and obvious, but also because I can just go to the following website to get this graphic, rather than England where I tend to feel the need to make my own graphics in a way that involves some tedious arsing around with data manually in a spreadsheet. So I need more time before I can show the age-related picture for England.
Scotland Coronavirus Tracker
Current and historical data of the Coronavirus outbreak in Scotland. Includes breakdowns by region, maps, charts, and more!
www.travellingtabby.com
elbows
Well-Known Member
'Learning to live with' Covid in Scotland leads to a request for 'targeted military assistance' for the ambulance service.
Military to be called in to help Scottish ambulance crews
A series of serious ambulance delays have emerged, including one where a man died after a 40-hour wait.
www.bbc.co.uk
elbows
Well-Known Member
It looks like there was a real drop in hospital admissions/diagnoses for England across age groups, although as usual I hesitate to read too much into it and I dont really use it as a guide as to what happens next.
I supose I post it now mostly to backup the idea that at least some of the fall in case numbers in data for England recently is actually real. I still dont know how much of that to attribute to a spell of good weather a little while back.
I still havent had time to look at English positive case data by age group and region.
I supose I post it now mostly to backup the idea that at least some of the fall in case numbers in data for England recently is actually real. I still dont know how much of that to attribute to a spell of good weather a little while back.
I still havent had time to look at English positive case data by age group and region.
elbows
Well-Known Member
I dont watch Tim Spector of ZOEs videos too often, except on occasions where people have reasons to draw attention to something he's said like that 'only a ripple' error months back. The ZOE youtube channel do quite like clickbait titles, and I decided to make myself watch the latest one as it was titled "Is the UK sleepwalking into a COVID disaster?".
I dont want to describe it in full or even review it properly. Many of the usual themes were there including their feelings about what symptoms should count officially, a mix of hopeful and not so hopeful data, and plenty of "we'll have to wait and see". Anyway the reason I am bothering to make this post is that there was a small part of the video where he looked with envy at graphs showing what a few other well vaccinated European countries had been able to achieve in terms of bringing down hospitalisations in a sustained manner. And he wants plan B stuff to be done now.
Rather than link to the video which I find a bit tedious, here is a bit of a statement that they've put out on the same subject:
covid.joinzoe.com
I dont want to describe it in full or even review it properly. Many of the usual themes were there including their feelings about what symptoms should count officially, a mix of hopeful and not so hopeful data, and plenty of "we'll have to wait and see". Anyway the reason I am bothering to make this post is that there was a small part of the video where he looked with envy at graphs showing what a few other well vaccinated European countries had been able to achieve in terms of bringing down hospitalisations in a sustained manner. And he wants plan B stuff to be done now.
Rather than link to the video which I find a bit tedious, here is a bit of a statement that they've put out on the same subject:
With the highest cases in Europe, UK should trigger Plan B now
According to ZOE COVID Study incidence figures, in total there are currently 47,276 new daily symptomatic cases of COVID in the UK on average, based on PCR and LFT test data from up to five days ago.
covid.joinzoe.com
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
but...I dont watch Tim Spector of ZOEs videos too often, except on occasions where people have reasons to draw attention to something he's said like that 'only a ripple' error months back. The ZOE youtube channel do quite like clickbait titles, and I decided to make myself watch the latest one as it was titled "Is the UK sleepwalking into a COVID disaster?".
I dont want to describe it in full or even review it properly. Many of the usual themes were there including their feelings about what symptoms should count officially, a mix of hopeful and not so hopeful data, and plenty of "we'll have to wait and see". Anyway the reason I am bothering to make this post is that there was a small part of the video where he looked with envy at graphs showing what a few other well vaccinated European countries had been able to achieve in terms of bringing down hospitalisations in a sustained manner. And he wants plan B stuff to be done now.
Rather than link to the video which I find a bit tedious, here is a bit of a statement that they've put out on the same subject:
With the highest cases in Europe, UK should trigger Plan B now
According to ZOE COVID Study incidence figures, in total there are currently 47,276 new daily symptomatic cases of COVID in the UK on average, based on PCR and LFT test data from up to five days ago.
the public perception
the party conference
the rabid back benchers
all those other political rather than public health related reasons
...possibly also unicorns in teh distance
BigMoaner
We will all go together
it's some sad sack sicko comparing the brutalisation of black people in the american south to being a absoloute thicko who trusts michael on whatsapp over a global scientific consensus.
Yossarian
⏭️
It's a reference to segregated drinking fountains for Blacks and whites in the South in the Jim Crow era - definitely anti-vaxx.
maomao
普費斯
It's anti-vax or at least anti vaccine passport etc. It's comparing the way the unvaccinated are treated to black people not being allowed to use the same water fountains as white people in 20th century US.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
hmm maybe it's not anti vax. is the covid idiot polluting the other sink because they are linked by the pipe?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Nail, head etc.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Hmmm that's from him: The Artful Dodger (A. Dee) is on Instagram • 209 posts on their profile
BigMoaner
We will all go together
pro vax
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I didn't get very far with that as it kept wanting me to log in to instagram, which I don't have. I'll take your word for it though and have edited my (hostile) comments.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yeah I already looked at some of his other stuff (there's a fair bit of it around here) and there are some pro NHS themed murals but noting specifically about vaccines (either pro or anti) as far as I can see.
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