CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Iodine was used to combat goitre years ago. This article has an alarming illustration. Actually I know someone who has a neck like that. Past the point of iodine probably.
Coronavirus Conspiracy Corner
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Anju
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Anyone with so many Twitter followers, 2.1 million, or maybe just anyone should be shot for pushing this rubbish. Article has a good look at a 'science' paper she uses to back up her views.
Candace Owens Is Dangerously Misinformed about Vaccines - Quillette
Candace Owens Is Dangerously Misinformed about Vaccines - Quillette
Lurdan
old wave
I see Quillette have managed to find someone even more 'misinformed' than their Associate Editor Toby Young.
(The comments thread under that article is quite a "test your sense of black humour" lockdown challenge).
SheilaNaGig
Break requested
I think it's Chinese Whispers/Telephone getting from the use of potassium iodide to block radioactive iodide being absorbed by the thyroid gland after the Chernobyl disaster.... iodide protects from radioactivity.... 5G is radioactivity.... iodine will protect from 5G...
Blarrgh...
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Anju
Well-Known Member
Ah, didn't realise quillette was so I'm not right wing I'm just right. Still think it's a decent article. I would have thought Candace Owens was right up their street.
editor
hiraethified
My message to FB, which seems to be filling up more of this shit every day:
Hey! Conspiracy nutjobs! What the fuck would be the point of Bill Gates inventing a vaccine that would - using technology that doesn't even exist - secretly implant mind-control microchips in everyone's?
Apart from the fact that such a cunning plan would involve the participation of tens of thousands of people who are all happy to see their fellow men get fucked up (while remaining sworn to secrecy for eternity) - what happens next?
What's one of the world's richest men going to get out of it? What would be the fucking point, you internet fucking loons?
Nice slapdown here New Boogeyman For Conspiracy Loons: Bill Gates
Hey! Conspiracy nutjobs! What the fuck would be the point of Bill Gates inventing a vaccine that would - using technology that doesn't even exist - secretly implant mind-control microchips in everyone's?
Apart from the fact that such a cunning plan would involve the participation of tens of thousands of people who are all happy to see their fellow men get fucked up (while remaining sworn to secrecy for eternity) - what happens next?
What's one of the world's richest men going to get out of it? What would be the fucking point, you internet fucking loons?
Nice slapdown here New Boogeyman For Conspiracy Loons: Bill Gates
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
having an argument with a FB friend who says that 5G damages your immune system - followed by lots of you tube links to back it up. I ask for peer reviewed science and hes linked to this article - Risks to Health and Well-Being From Radio-Frequency Radiation Emitted by Cell Phones and Other Wireless Devices. which seems to a cherry picked summary of various studies suggesting detrimental health issues associated with mobile phones. im not a science person- so help me out bullshit busters!
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It’s (mostly) about holding a mobile to your head for prolonged periods, not masts. In essence - don’t let a child do so.
editor
hiraethified
There's a handy set of links at the bottom of this article
Coronavirus, 5G, anti-mask and other conspiracy theories – an essential read for rebutting social media madness
With cell towers serving hospitals being set alight and Facebook feeds overflowing with a relentless stream of unhinged coronavirus conspiracy theories, we thought it would be an appropriate time …
www.brixtonbuzz.com
2hats
Dust.
Yes. It's their mobile phone handsets, with much higher field strengths in proximity to the body, that they should be encouraged to burn, not the masts.
(Will conveniently also largely solve the pseudo-science cesspool of social media).
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Ask them what evidence there is of a plausible mechanism for harm; otherwise this is just correlation which does not = causation.
Lurdan
old wave
Interesting article by something called NewsGuard (which is currently offering it's $2.95/permonth misinformation-blocking web extension for FREEE!! as a pandemic loss leader contribution).
Tracking Facebook’s COVID-19 Misinformation ‘Super-spreaders’ – NewsGuard
Mild scepticism about their motivation and methodology aside, it's an interesting list. Icke is on it of course but by no means at the top.
Their number one is "Global Informers"
Tracking Facebook’s COVID-19 Misinformation ‘Super-spreaders’ – NewsGuard
Mild scepticism about their motivation and methodology aside, it's an interesting list. Icke is on it of course but by no means at the top.
Their number one is "Global Informers"
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
They're starting from the position that the USA doesn't necessarily pursue lines of research that put public health first. My own bias has no argument there.
Their main points are to urge caution (cite towers away from people; minimise childhood exposure) and that we need to gather large-scale human epidemiological data to be able to say any more.
They don't reference any research that shows causal mechanisms for damage from radio-frequency radiation (RFR) - there don't seem to be any (yet). They do present some equivocal evidence for correlation between RFR exposure and cell/DNA damage. They also cite evidence of an increase in certain types of brain tumour in recent years, though the cause is not reported here (including as being due to RFR). WiFi and cordless phones come under their same note of caution.
tl;dr: the authors think there's enough reason (via correlation; not causation) to be cautious and that more research evidence is needed.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Can't you see Bill Gates is using CRISPR to gene edit HIV into the coronavirus?
Just when they thought they'd down a PREP pill and go out on the razzle.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
presumably that’s Al-Queda or similar, realising that spreading scepticism about vaccines might kill more infidels than flying planes into buildings. Clever stuff.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Bill Gates etc..
I reckon most of the tittle tattle on Facebook etc - and even more so Russia Today (RT) is some sort of exercise in guilt by association. Even a phrase like "The New World Order" (ie Obama, Hilary Clinton and the WHO) is simply an incantation of doom.
If you care to watch David Icke's 45 minute interview, recently controversial, that's pretty much all he does. He just keeps linking together catch phrases designed to push the hot buttons of his devotees.
Sadly this may actually be the human condition. For many years I was a non-atheist attender of the Conway Hall. I found so,me of their lectures very off in that they couldn't resist having vindictive swipes at organised religion. On the other hand I learned more about heresy and alternative ways of looking at things at Conway Hall than I ever did from a C of E vicar.
Anju my reply to your intriguing passport photo thingy was intended as a crossword puzzle construction based on this process shown in a recent BBC Horizon programme. Horizon was discussing how CRISPR could be used to cure genetic diseases - or be abused.
Note: Chinese scientists seems to be well ahead when it comes to CRISPR - a couple of them got reprimanded. See this learned journal report of genetically edited babies!
Experiments that led to the first gene-edited babies: the ethical failings and the urgent need for better governance
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editor
hiraethified
Potentially problematic but I'm not sure how else you can stop the legions of unscientific, reckless and downright dangerous anti-vaxx loons endangering the lives of others right now:
Coronavirus: YouTube bans 'medically unsubstantiated' content
The Google-owned platform's chief executive says the company is determined to "stamp out" misinformation.
www.bbc.co.uk
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I recommend this from Sophie and Co this morning if you want to have the willies
Mark you what he says about infectivity of 'flu vs coronavirus gives pause for thought
Labs suffer virus breakouts – pathologist
Viruses, one of the most ancient inhabitants of our planet, have once again proven that we must take them seriously
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
The one about the Chinese making it in the lab seems to be gaining traction. OK, it's only the Sun, but the detail in the accusations is quite something. Even the famous bat lady is a target.
www.the-sun.com
www.thesun.co.uk
How can Sun journalists live with the idea of dressing this up as news?
Here's a more serious story on the bat lady How China’s “Bat Woman” Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus
China urged to tell truth after claims coronavirus originated in Wuhan lab during risky tests on bats
CHINA was urged to come clean last night over claims coronavirus originated in a lab. Bungling scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology accidentally spread the killer during risky coronavirus …
www.the-sun.com
Wuhan lab ‘did absolutely crazy things’ to manipulate coronavirus into infecting humans, Russian microbiologist claims
THE coronavirus is the result of Wuhan scientists doing “absolutely crazy things” in their laboratory, a leading Russian microbiologist has claimed. World renowned expert Professor Petr Chumakov cl…
www.thesun.co.uk
Here's a more serious story on the bat lady How China’s “Bat Woman” Hunted Down Viruses from SARS to the New Coronavirus
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Bog standard spam really but just got it to my business account, submitted via a contact form. Doubt a real person did it so probably someone paid a spamming company to send it out. Weird content aside I wonder who's bankrolling it? Individual loon with too much money to spare or one of Icke's fellow travellers? Not an approach I've seen before either way.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I thought you all should see this - extracted from a Huawei document called 5g Spectrum - Public Policy Position
I don't know what "Massive MIMO" is - but I don't like the sound of it: "a key 5g feature which uses beam-forming techniques to focus signals on each user"
And all I was doing was some research into why, when it rains or there is a high pressure weather system my reception of Mary Beard meets the Romans on BBC Four HD goes down the toilet (and PBS+1 for that matter).
I blame these mobile phone apperatchiks with their 5g 700 MHz clearance etc.
One thing thing you will learn if you study this very orange doucment in depth (only 20 pages though) is that although they are swiping the TV frequencies currently used for minority HD channels such as BBC Four and BBC News HD, they also have designs on lower frequnecies still.
You may find that we give up having Freeview altogether, so we can all have perfect 5g, - or even 6g. UGGHHH!
https://www-file.huawei.com/-/media.../public_policy_position_5g_spectrum.pdf?la=en
I don't know what "Massive MIMO" is - but I don't like the sound of it: "a key 5g feature which uses beam-forming techniques to focus signals on each user"
And all I was doing was some research into why, when it rains or there is a high pressure weather system my reception of Mary Beard meets the Romans on BBC Four HD goes down the toilet (and PBS+1 for that matter).
I blame these mobile phone apperatchiks with their 5g 700 MHz clearance etc.
One thing thing you will learn if you study this very orange doucment in depth (only 20 pages though) is that although they are swiping the TV frequencies currently used for minority HD channels such as BBC Four and BBC News HD, they also have designs on lower frequnecies still.
You may find that we give up having Freeview altogether, so we can all have perfect 5g, - or even 6g. UGGHHH!
https://www-file.huawei.com/-/media.../public_policy_position_5g_spectrum.pdf?la=en
2hats
Dust.
Just to underline what was mentioned upthread, the signal you typically receive from the cell tower at your handset (-30 to -120 dBm) is around 10 microwatts or less (more typically is picowatts and can be femtowatts). The signal your handset is pumping out (5-25 dBm, say) is typically around 10 to a few hundred milliwatts. So the cell tower signal is around a thousand times weaker than that from the handset you are carrying around, at least (though more typically something in the range of a million to billion times).
Massive MIMO is just a phased array technique for improving S/N; it's actually going to reduce RF energy in directions where active handsets aren't.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Just as a diversion, given that the mobile operators apparently desire the 700MHz band to penentrate buildings - and are happy to sue OFCOM if they don't get it: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/h3g-v-ofcom-full-judgment2.pdf
How come the bloody BBC, Arqiva and OFCOM can't get it together to deliver a reliable TV dignal on 756MHz 3 miles from Crystal Palace?
I have issues because my aerial is IN the roof and there is a railway viaduct behind me. But even those in Somerleyton Road look as though they might be having problems - maybe because The Electric Quarter stands between them and Crystal Place? There are some very high gain aerials on roofs down Somerleyton Road.
At Crystal Palace transmitting station the standard power output on the multiplex transmitters for Ch22 - Ch30 (old numbers) are 200kW each (5 off), then there is the low power London Live transmitter @ 20kW on Ch29 (538Mhz) (which also broadcasts Sony Classic Movies). Ch30 is the multiplex channel for standard HD channels BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5. (also CBBC HD and Film 4 + 1 non HD).
There are two multiplexes which you have no legal entitlement to receive as a public service - those on Ch 55 Ch 56 (746MHz & 754MHz), which carry BBC Four HD, BBC News HD and various other stuff, the only useful one to me being PBS America +1 which goes on 24 hrs where PBS America is only on from 1pm - 11pm. The issue here is these 700 Mhz band transmitters are low power - only 43kW/39kW respectively.
What intrigues me is how the mobile phone companies are scrapping and suing over the 700Mhz band because it can "easily penetrate buildings", yet Arqiva and BBC seem unable to reliably get their Crystal Palace signal to more than about 70% of the population on this frequency band.
2hats
Dust.
In short - different technologies. DTT evolves slowly over time compared to GSM/UMTS. Mobile phone handsets are involved in two-way adaptive communications with cell tower base stations. Freeview box sets are receiving a one-way signal from the broadcast antenna which is invariably further away. A handset and base station have wiggle room to negotiate their way around interference, as it were. DVB-T signals are also susceptible to being interfered with by LTE to varying degrees. A properly fitted and setup outdoor antenna (for DTT reception) will almost always win over an indoor one.
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