Conspiraloons – why...?

[pembrokestephen]

Can you back that up with milk, sugar and a nice tea set, with saucers??

You don't understand! Why aren't there any potteries left in the Potteries, that's what I want to know? And everybody knows that Tony Blair got a Blue Peter badge when he was a kid, only they wiped all our minds to remove the memory, because otherwise we'd have seen where his lizard skin ripped a bit, right, where they put it on, and like all this lizardy stuff came out, anyway, see, if you put the milk in first it's like it sends a signal to the alien landing craft, yeah, and that means we get invaded by aliens with anal probes, innit, like, cos my best friend got invaded by an alien with an anal probe only it turned out to be her mate Kayleigh-Joe cos she was pissed on special brew, like. Innit.

 

[pk]

I made that first comment up. Is it possible that you believe any old guff people say?

LMFAO!!


Nice one Axon.

That's just like the old "nomoney" double bluff - hook line and sinker.

 

[laptop]

*gasps* How did you know THAT?

I just showed the Grand Master the negatives.








And the stains on the fleece...

 

[Azrael23]

Its mission impossible trying to detail whats happening today. You really think you can talk with that much accuracy on events that occurred perhaps hundreds of thousands of years ago? Nah.

I`m all for the analysis of places like the temple at Baalbek, I`d agree that there must have been a source of advanced knowledge in those days...but talk of wars and floods etc. all seems a bit dramatic, we can`t really know. You could only ever summarise from ancient texts most of which are symbolic.

 

[axon]

actually you were correct and wrong

earth was flooded, atlantis was created, then war, then flooded again.

Actually I thiink you'll find that it wasn't aliens, it was aquatic man beasts that came out of the ocean and gave as the technology to develop TV. The subsequent TV waves are priming our brains for the impending takeover of humanity by the sea beasts.

 

[A Dashing Blade]

Why is fused glass found in profusion beneath the sands of Iraqi plains? Why are radioactive tektites and isotopes found all over the Dead Sea basin and at the very location posited for the ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah? (m. tsarion)
http://www.taroscopes.com/highwindowsarticles/the_atlanteans.html

with regard to the Mahabharata you seem to gloss over the fact it was written well before anyone apparently knew about atomic energy. Its a pretty clear description of an nuclear explosion.

So a bit of obsidion is the sum total of your "proof" that aliens had a big nuclear war?

 

[Lad]

actually you were correct and wrong

earth was flooded, atlantis was created, then war, then flooded again.

If there are engineered structures under the sea doesn't that indicate an error in dating human pre-history rather than evidence of aliens?

 

[laptop]

If there are engineered structures under the sea doesn't that indicate an error in dating human pre-history rather than evidence of aliens?

Er... a change in sea level appears to be the simplest explanation... whether globally (post-Ice Age effects) or locally (land subsidence) - see the Alexandria region.

 

[pk]

If there's alien life on this planet - sure as shit it's under the sea, way under, where us land-dweller would never be able to look for it...

The closer you get to the centre of the earth... the closer you get to God...

 

[Azrael23]

errr the closer you get to the centre of the earth the closer you get to your own inevitable demise.

 

[Blagsta]

1)what is the goal for our society? what are we all collectively working to?

Teleology. Shaky ground there.

 

[Blagsta]

why isnt the Book of Giants included as part of the Dead Sea Scrolls even though the pages were found together?

missing books of the bible that talk of Giant people like the skeletons found, seen here

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/index2.html

its really interesting stuff.

I guess you've read Boyd Rice's article in the Disinfo Book of Lies? Dodgy old Nazi he is, like.

 

[Blagsta]

The Spear of Destiny - I assume that you'll be saying there's deep meaningful messages in the pleasantly diverting popcorn movie 'Constantine' next...

 

[White Lotus]

*unsubscribes from thread with huuuuuge images posted by conspiraloons that take forever to load on dial-up*

 

[zArk]

lol, a 56ker. ^

 

[Blagsta]

^
lol, a fucking psycho

 

[laptop]

*unsubscribes from thread with huuuuuge images posted by conspiraloons that take forever to load on dial-up*

Only on your dialup. You are special. Your every thought, your very last mouse-gesture, is routed through the infernal NSA Echelon machine...

 

[zArk]

I guess you've read Boyd Rice's article in the Disinfo Book of Lies? Dodgy old Nazi he is, like.

oh come on, anything can be skewd towards any ideology. I havent read his article but i will.

i dont care for your incinuation, by the way.

 

[zArk]

Only on your dialup. You are special. Your every thought, your very last mouse-gesture, is routed through the infernal NSA Echelon machine...

oh gawd here we go with some weirdo going on about Echelon.

 

[Azrael23]

Echelons real.... you did know that right?

 

[ViolentPanda]

by the way Da Vinci was a freemason, catholic and scientist. Did he have amazing knowledge for his time or was he just reading the alien technology notes he was allowed access to?

It would have been extremely difficult for Leonardo to have been a Freemason, given that he pre-existed them by several centuries.

He may well (given his interest in "natural science and philosophy") have been a hermeticist, but a Freemason? Even if they'd existed at the time (which they didn't) he'd hardly have been likely to cultivate associations that, given his tenuous status with the Catholic church, could have led to his incarceration and execution.

 

[Lad]

Er... a change in sea level appears to be the simplest explanation... whether globally (post-Ice Age effects) or locally (land subsidence) - see the Alexandria region.

Megalithtic stone structures and buildings are supposed to date from about 4,000-3,500BC at the earliest.If the sea flooded an area in say 7,500BC,and if there are structures on the sea bed it could mean that the convential dates are incorrect.That's if they are definitely there e.g.off the coast of Japan.http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm

 

[ViolentPanda]

That'll be yer geology, very interesting place the Dead Sea basin - it's the point of the Earth that is the furthest below sea level.

You should visit it sometime - the Dead Sea scrolls were found a short walk from the sea itself, plus it's a hell of a view from Masada as the sun rises... oh and you know they've never pinpointed the exact location of Sodom or Gomorrah but are confident that earthquake activity caused the fabled cities to collapse into the dead sea...

Yup, classic quake-caused liquefaction of the sandy substrate of the region. Some chap from Oxbridge got together a multi-disciplinary team (archaeologists, historians, engineers, architects etc) and actually researched and modelled the possibility, and worked out that even towns and cities up to 10 km inland could have been effected in the same way.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Echelons real.... you did know that right?

Everyone has known that since the 1990s when Duncan Campbell dug the network up.

 

[Blagsta]

oh come on, anything can be skewd towards any ideology. I havent read his article but i will.

i dont care for your incinuation, by the way.

I guess you never heard of Boyd Rice then.

 

[pembrokestephen]

I just showed the Grand Master the negatives.








And the stains on the fleece...

Not the ones that were in the shape of...Jahbulon's left elbow, surely?

*steps away from laptop*
*glances nervously at sky*

 

[laptop]

Megalithtic stone structures and buildings are supposed to date from about 4,000-3,500BC at the earliest.If the sea flooded an area in say 7,500BC,and if there are structures on the sea bed it could mean that the convential dates are incorrect.That's if they are definitely there e.g.off the coast of Japan.http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm

Either the human habitation date or the inundation date or both could be out.

Hard to date things underwater, because all your organic material is long turned to worm-shit and the other radiation dating methods (afaik) kick in to usefulness for older stuff.

Those pics are definitely ambiguous - the one of "post-holes" being hardest to explain otherwise. And of course the whole subject is deeply embedded in Japanese politics. A archæologist friend reports rumours that the Imperial Court arranged to X-ray the oldest tombs in the Palace - and, horrified, prevented publication of the images because they unmistakably showed classically Korean craftspersonship So evidence of very old "Japanese" stuff gets tied up in politics...

 

[pembrokestephen]

It would have been extremely difficult for Leonardo to have been a Freemason, given that he pre-existed them by several centuries.

He may well (given his interest in "natural science and philosophy") have been a hermeticist, but a Freemason? Even if they'd existed at the time (which they didn't) he'd hardly have been likely to cultivate associations that, given his tenuous status with the Catholic church, could have led to his incarceration and execution.

Actually, I did look into this claim, and he *could*, in theory, have been one, but it'd be a long stretch: he died in 1519, and early records of Masonic stuff go back to the late 16th Century. Whether or not he was in the right place, or could or would have joined is a whole other matter. But I think the idea that he was somehow in possession of alien texts that only he could read leaves any claim about his membership of the Freemasons standing in the Ludicrosity Stakes

 

[Derian]

It would have been extremely difficult for Leonardo to have been a Freemason, given that he pre-existed them by several centuries.

He may well (given his interest in "natural science and philosophy") have been a hermeticist, but a Freemason? Even if they'd existed at the time (which they didn't) he'd hardly have been likely to cultivate associations that, given his tenuous status with the Catholic church, could have led to his incarceration and execution.

Freemasonry in the accepted sense of today, perhaps. Masonry in the operative as opposed to speculative form goes back far further than that.

The transition from the operative to the speculative form of Masonry wasn't completed until 1717, just under two centuries after Da Vinci's death. Most of the transition period seems to have taken place during those two centuries - and indeed there were some Lodges in England that were entirely non - operative by the mid 1600's.

As far as the early operative guild - based free stone masonry is concerned, Da Vinci may very well have had connections/been a member. I don't know - but I think it's a bit less cut and dried than you set out (and a couple of centuries isn't a few /pedant mode off )

 

[Derian]

Heh!! Hello pembrokestephen