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Richest MP in Britain slams welfare state but makes £625k a year in housing benefit
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/richest-mp-britain-slams-welfare-3178089
don't let them eat cake, let them pay for mine mwuahhahahahahaha
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Oh come on, he isn't 'getting something for nothing' he is providing housing. Whether or not you agree with the present system, and I don't, he is a landlord; albeit a big one; In the same way as posters on these boards are.
where did i say that?
are the posters on this board who are landlords slamming the welfare state???

ah, you've got it twisted, again
he is saying those on welfare are getting something for nothing
A Tory MP worth £110million is raking in £625,000 a year from his hard-up tenants’ housing benefit – despite blasting the “something for nothing” welfare state.
 
Oh come on, he isn't 'getting something for nothing' he is providing housing. Whether or not you agree with the present system, and I don't, he is a landlord; albeit a big one; In the same way as posters on these boards are.
Nor are benefit recipients getting something for nothing. That's the whole point. Go and have a lie down.
 
and does he have to provide it at such a high price when he is worth millions??

and try not to go for the 'market rate' obvious argument

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Oh come on, he isn't 'getting something for nothing' he is providing housing. Whether or not you agree with the present system, and I don't, he is a landlord; albeit a big one; In the same way as posters on these boards are.
No he's not. He's a landlord in a very very different way from anyone on here. He's thieving the system. And your anger is at minor description of him.
 
and does he have to provide it at such a high price when he is worth millions??

and try not to go for the 'market rate' obvious argument

e2a to sas

I am not defending the man, merely pointing out that like other landlords, he is providing housing.

There are those on the boards who let out houses, whether they are recipients of housing benefit, I don't know.

At it's broadest, you could state that those in receipt of housing benefit are getting 'something for nothing', however, my personal view is that society in general is paying* to meet the needs of those in need.

* Paying too much. I wince on a daily basis when I hear how much people are paying in rent.

Has anyone done a cost/benefit analysis of HB going to build social housing instead of lining the pockets of private landlords?
 
I am not defending the man, merely pointing out that like other landlords, he is providing housing.

There are those on the boards who let out houses, whether they are recipients of housing benefit, I don't know.

At it's broadest, you could state that those in receipt of housing benefit are getting 'something for nothing', however, my personal view is that society in general is paying* to meet the needs of those in need.

* Paying too much. I wince on a daily basis when I hear how much people are paying in rent.

Has anyone done a cost/benefit analysis of HB going to build social housing instead of lining the pockets of private landlords?

but the method used (HB) means that private landlords are getting the mortgages paid from the public purse and have zero obligation to keep such property as social
 
I am not defending the man, merely pointing out that like other landlords, he is providing housing.

There are those on the boards who let out houses, whether they are recipients of housing benefit, I don't know.

At it's broadest, you could state that those in receipt of housing benefit are getting 'something for nothing', however, my personal view is that society in general is paying* to meet the needs of those in need.

* Paying too much. I wince on a daily basis when I hear how much people are paying in rent.

Has anyone done a cost/benefit analysis of HB going to build social housing instead of lining the pockets of private landlords?
Who is in receipt of housing benefit?
 
I am not defending the man, merely pointing out that like other landlords, he is providing housing.

There are those on the boards who let out houses, whether they are recipients of housing benefit, I don't know.

At it's broadest, you could state that those in receipt of housing benefit are getting 'something for nothing', however, my personal view is that society in general is paying* to meet the needs of those in need.

* Paying too much. I wince on a daily basis when I hear how much people are paying in rent.

Has anyone done a cost/benefit analysis of HB going to build social housing instead of lining the pockets of private landlords?
not defending landlords but are you actually comparing the self confessed 'accidental' landlords of urban with 1 property to this man with 1000's of properties??

and NO they are NOT getting something for NOTHING, would you expect help if you needed it?
 
Oh come on, he isn't 'getting something for nothing' he is providing housing. Whether or not you agree with the present system, and I don't, he is a landlord; albeit a big one; In the same way as posters on these boards are.
You are having a laugh, surely!

They complain the benefit system is too generous while Profitting from it
 
Oh come on, he isn't 'getting something for nothing' he is providing housing. Whether or not you agree with the present system, and I don't, he is a landlord; albeit a big one; In the same way as posters on these boards are.

Although one could argue that as he inherited most of his land and fortune, he has indeed "got something for nothing". It's not like he purchased his rentier empire from the sweat of his own brow, is it? :)
 
Although one could argue that as he inherited most of his land and fortune, he has indeed "got something for nothing". It's not like he purchased his rentier empire from the sweat of his own brow, is it? :)
and most of these landed gentry types get massive subsidies from the other institution they all bemoan, namely "yerp".

How they function I don't know.
 
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requests that this impact assessment examine care home admissions, access to day care centres, access to education for people with learning difficulties, provision of universal mental health treatments, closures of Remploy factories, the Government’s contract with Atos Healthcare, IT implementation of universal credit, human rights abuses against disabled people, excess deaths of welfare claimants and the disregard of medical evidence in decision-making by Atos, the Department for Work and Pensions and the Tribunals Service;

urges the Secretary of State for Health and the Secretary of State for Education jointly to launch a consultation on improving support into work for sick and disabled people; and further calls on the Government to end with immediate effect the work capability assessment, as voted for by the British Medical Association, to discontinue forced work under the threat of sanctions for people on disability benefits and to bring forward legislative proposals to allow a free vote on repeal of the Welfare Reform Act 2012."

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Place your bets: how long before IDS scurries off this time? Will he even attend, or will'
we have another overwrought performance from McVey?
 
You know I'd love to think IDS might pay attention to this, or that Cameron might take action against his ministers, or that even the electorate might respond likewise.

I'm just too cynical. I will watc the debate with interest though, providing we don't get a repetition of the disgusting performace from the Foodbank debacle.
 
#wowdebate2014

IDS refuses to take onboard actual peoples stories of the effect of the WCA calling them anecdotal evidence yet accepts anecdotal evidence of scroungers to push through his vile policies. Tory standing now giving a few anecdotal stories of people with illness/disability working success stories from his constituency.

Oh if we all lived there.
 
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What's the bets that, by this evening, that fat cunt Paul Shitty Staines, will have a cheap article with photos of Labour mp's supposedly laughing or something.
 
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