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Response from my tame journalist is that he's currently looking for doctors who have been asked/directed by the DWP not to issue supporting medical evidence for claimants' appeals and he'll also be talking to his paper's legal department to see what the current legal position is about the DWP doing this.

Oh, here's some more cheery, uplifting and frankly potentially incriminating information:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/where_a_client_fails_the_wca_doe
 
Thinking about it, I wonder how many claimants whose doctors refused to supply supporting evidence for appeals were aware that the DWP had approached their doctor and asked/pressured them to refuse to provide medical evidence? Surely a patient/claimant should be made aware of it if that's why their doctor has refused.

It'd be fascinating to compare the number of claimants whose doctors refused with the number of claimants who'd been given the reason why...
 
Thinking about it, I wonder how many claimants whose doctors refused to supply supporting evidence for appeals were aware that the DWP had approached their doctor and asked/pressured them to refuse to provide medical evidence? Surely a patient/claimant should be made aware of it if that's why their doctor has refused.

It'd be fascinating to compare the number of claimants whose doctors refused with the number of claimants who'd been given the reason why...

Are you talking about a sick note or some form the GPs have to fill in? Know my friend's GP filled in a form, but they wouldn't let me look at it
 
Are you talking about a sick note or some form the GPs have to fill in? Know my friend's GP filled in a form, but they wouldn't let me look at it

If memory serves the DWP is definitely trying to get doctors to refuse to give claimants sick notes, yes. If a GP refuses to issue a sick note then a claimant's benefits stop immediately, leaving them with nothing to live on until their appeal is heard. If their appeal is denied then they'll still get nothing. If their appeal is granted and the tribunal's ruling forces the DWP to restore their full benefits and backdate them to the date of the original decision, then they'll far more likely than not receive a letter ordering them to attend another assessment within weeks of the tribunal ruling against the DWP.

There's another little kicker as well. There's no shortage of claimants who, having been taken off disability benefits and then told they don't qualify for ESA either because they're fit for work. These claimants have to apply for JSA instead, have been to their Jobcentre and applied for JSA only to be told that they don't qualify for JSA because they're unfit for work and so aren't considered a jobseeker either.

For these claimants the DWP has said they're fit for work, the Jobcentre has said they aren't, both organisations have revoked or refused their benefit claims and they're left with absolutely nothing to live on. Still, now that sick and disabled claimants are starting to die off that should please the Treasury's bean counters even more, because the NHS don't have to pay for their long-term care once they're six feet under.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/14/worklessness-culture-myth-exposed

Those families with 3 generations that have never worked? Don't exist.

Together with Andy Furlong at Glasgow University and researchers Johann Roden and Robert Crow, we undertook fieldwork in very deprived neighbourhoods of Glasgow and Middlesbrough. We used every method available to try to locate families with three generations that had never worked, such as spending days surveying clients of job centres, interviewing dozens of organisations that worked in these neighbourhoods, advertising via posters, newsletters and newspaper stories through leafleting and door-knocking and spending months in these neighbourhoods talking to hundreds of residents.
Despite this, we were unable to find any such families. If they exist, they can only account for a minuscule fraction of workless people. Recent surveys suggest that less than 1% of workless households might have two generations who have never worked. Families with three such generations will therefore be even fewer. As Paul Gregg, one of the foremost experts on inter-generational worklessness in the UK has said: "It just doesn't exist on the scale people seem to think it does."

Not that this will stop politicians talking about such families, nor many people believing this to be a problem at all :(
 
Bakunin said:
If memory serves the DWP is definitely trying to get doctors to refuse to give claimants sick notes, yes. If a GP refuses to issue a sick note then a claimant's benefits stop immediately, leaving them with nothing to live on until their appeal is heard. If their appeal is denied then they'll still get nothing. If their appeal is granted and the tribunal's ruling forces the DWP to restore their full benefits and backdate them to the date of the original decision, then they'll far more likely than not receive a letter ordering them to attend another assessment within weeks of the tribunal ruling against the DWP.

There's another little kicker as well. There's no shortage of claimants who, having been taken off disability benefits and then told they don't qualify for ESA either because they're fit for work. These claimants have to apply for JSA instead, have been to their Jobcentre and applied for JSA only to be told that they don't qualify for JSA because they're unfit for work and so aren't considered a jobseeker either.

For these claimants the DWP has said they're fit for work, the Jobcentre has said they aren't, both organisations have revoked or refused their benefit claims and they're left with absolutely nothing to live on. Still, now that sick and disabled claimants are starting to die off that should please the Treasury's bean counters even more, because the NHS don't have to pay for their long-term care once they're six feet under.

I have a client to whom exactly this situation has happened. He has been signed off work by a GP because he has had several seizures which the doctor has said would be dangerous in a work environment. The DWP had found him fit for work, but the Jobcentre needs the OK from a GP that he is fit, which they won't give on the basis that a subsequent seizure would potentially lay them open to a malpractice claim. He's just going for his THIRD ATOS assessment.
 
non loaded survey of the silent majority! :facepalm:
http://www.conservatives.com/Get_involved/benefits_haveyoursay
my bold
Have Your Say on Benefits

We’re interested in what your think about benefits. That’s why we’re asking you whether or not you support two fundamental principles upon which our welfare policies are founded – many will say they don’t but many will also be in favour. Your responses will tell us what the majority think.

Please also leave your comments.


Should benefits increase more than wages?
Yes
No​
*​
Do you think it’s fair that people can claim more in benefits that the average family earns through going to work?
Yes
No​
 
MP Ian Lavery (Labour, S. Northumberland) produced a genuine suicide note from constituent who had his disability benefit withdrawn and read it out in PMQs.

Tried to find the video on YT but it's not there.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nort...nt-s-suicide-on-benefits-cuts-72703-32463397/

A MAN’S suicide has been blamed on the Government’s harsh disability benefits cuts.

MP Ian Lavery has told the Prime Minister to stop rushing into cuts for the vulnerable after the Wansbeck MP found a copy of a suicide note in his post.

Mr Lavery said he did not wish to identify the family of the 54-year-old man, but said the house-bound had taken his life after been told he would be pushed off disabled benefits and left to fend for himself.

In an emotional question to the Prime Minister, Mr Lavery called for those losing disability benefits as a result of Government cuts to at least be allowed to undergo an impact assessment to see how the withdrawal of financial support will effect them.

The Labour MP said: “I have in my hand a genuine suicide note from a constituent of mine who, sadly, took his own life after he was informed that he was no longer entitled to employment and support allowance and disability benefits."
 
http://www.communitycare.co.uk/arti...ed-people-to-lose-out-on-benefits-by-2018.htm

Thought this was relevant to post here. So PiP will be slowed down and some things will get you points when previously it would have got you none, but huge numbers of people will still miss out and be worse off as a consequence.

I was reading about the new Motability criteria last night and it looks like walking distance is being reduced from 50m to 20 meters. I think that also applies to higher rate mobility component so a lot of people on higher rate mobility are going to lose a fair whack
 
The little shits are now sneaking in a change in the ESA descriptors starting early next year -great timing I haven't had a chance to link them to the old ones but it does seem to mean that some people who are currently getting into WRAG and support group will no longer be eligible. I think the approach seems to be - "let's keep tweaking until there's no one left. If we do it quietly no one will even notice!!"

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/3096/pdfs/uksi_20123096_en.pdf
 
BTW, re: Universal Jobmatch - if the DWP's going to spy on your online job hunt, my dad just pointed out that one might design a programme to do it for you and send the right cookies back.
 
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