campaign against welfare cuts and poverty

[Minnie_the_Minx]

worra massive ~CUNT!!

excellent dodge of living on benefits for a week too!

However, I agree with him here

"The trouble is, it's a stunt when someone like me does it because you do it for a week.

So instead of a stunt, why not make it real and do it for three months, preferably over the winter and see how well you fare when you've the quarterly bills coming in, and let's not forget the water, council tax, tv licence etc.

 

[Treacle Toes]

refuted.org.uk ‏@refuted
#UniversalJobmatch? DWP say's you can "revoke your consent" http://consent.me.uk/universaljobmatch/revoke/ … do NOT register, sign or consent

 

[stuff_it]

However, I agree with him here



So instead of a stunt, why not make it real and do it for three months, preferably over the winter and see how well you fare when you've the quarterly bills coming in, and let's not forget the water, council tax, tv licence etc.

Not very realistic is it, quarterly bills. He should be given card meters with debts on from the previous tenant and no explanation how they work. Should also only be allowed a non-smart phone and no internet. The phone should be in emergency credit when he gets it, and he should be given a set of shoes that is about to wear out.

 

[Mapped]

I came across a good myth-busting document the other day:

Read between the lines: confronting the myths about the benefits system

http://www.turn2us.org.uk/pdf/Mythbusting.pdf

It's come out of research into 'benefits stigma' carried out by turn2us

http://www.turn2us.org.uk/about_us/media_centre/news_archive/benefits_stigma.aspx

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Not very realistic is it, quarterly bills. He should be given card meters with debts on from the previous tenant and no explanation how they work. Should also only be allowed a non-smart phone and no internet. The phone should be in emergency credit when he gets it, and he should be given a set of shoes that is about to wear out.

Too cruel. He might chuck in the towel and then we'll never get to see him survive the full three months

 

[Treacle Toes]

Saturday, 24 November 2012

The most cold hearted letter ever sent by a Tory Minister.

http://eoin-clarke.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-most-cold-hearted-letter-ever-sent.html

 

[weepiper]

However, I agree with him here



So instead of a stunt, why not make it real and do it for three months, preferably over the winter and see how well you fare when you've the quarterly bills coming in, and let's not forget the water, council tax, tv licence etc.

give him some kids to look after too, make sure the period he has to do it for covers school uniform time, a school away trip, Christmas and at least one child's birthday too. And manufacture the washing machine breaking in the middle of that period. Then see how many fucking 'risks' he feels like taking, the cunt

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

give him some kids to look after too, make sure the period he has to do it for covers school uniform time, a school away trip, Christmas and at least one child's birthday too. And manufacture the washing machine breaking in the middle of that period. Then see how many fucking 'risks' he feels like taking, the cunt

 

[Treacle Toes]

The modern face of hardship

There are now more adults in poverty from working households than from homes where no one works

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-modern-face-of-hardship-8348392.html

 

[yield]

Two page summary of changes to Adult Social Services Budgets from June 2012
http://www.adass.org.uk/images/stories/Press12/ADASS_BudgetSurvey2012Summary.pdf

Councils are reducing their budgets for adult social care by £891m, representing
a 6.8% reduction against a 7.7% reduction in overall spending by councils.

That would be for one year.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Two page summary of changes to Adult Social Services Budgets from June 2012
http://www.adass.org.uk/images/stories/Press12/ADASS_BudgetSurvey2012Summary.pdf


That would be for one year.

With 2013-14 and 2014-15's promised cuts still to come.

 

[yield]

With 2013-14 and 2014-15's promised cuts still to come.

Yes. More than £1.8 billion over the last two years. With bigger deeper cuts due to come.

And that's just adult social services.

 

[weepiper]

JRF report published today.

http://www.jrf.org.uk/publications/monitoring-poverty-2012

 

[Treacle Toes]

All of this analysis and information is available. Why then are the government hell bent on ignoring it/spinning it to fit their own narrative?

Rhetorical question.

 

[weepiper]

Have had a skim read through that report. It's hard not to feel a bit LLETSA about everything when you see it all laid out like that.

 

[stuff_it]

Another arrow in their bow, people can now be fined £2k for 'benefit fraud' without it ever seeing a court.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...-face-new-2000-fine-from-today_n_1499117.html

 

[Treacle Toes]

The State of welfare

Radio 4

10am

Seventy years ago William Beveridge wrote a report that was to lay the foundations for the welfare state. He identified the Five Giants that society needed to slay: Want, Disease, Ignorance, Squalor and Idleness. Using archive from the time, Jane Garvey and Julian Worricker take us back to that extraordinary moment in wartime Britain that has proved so pivotal to the shape of the welfare state today. They discuss how well the system serves those who rely it on it now - and those who pay for it. Changing attitudes to those on benefits are reflected in a new BBC-commissioned poll and and we hear three radical visions for how welfare should be provided in the future. There'll be tough debate on fairness, entitlement, rights and compassion with Frank Field, Labour MP, the philosopher Roger Scruton and social commentator Polly Toynbee. The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions Iain Duncan Smith will be challenged to outline the philosophy behind his decisions on reforming the welfare state, as well as responding to the views of contributors and listeners.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p0fpg

 

[Treacle Toes]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p0fpg

On now and will be available on listen later

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Is it this thread you're after @quimcunx

 

[Treacle Toes]

Work Programme: Workfare for sick and disabled people starts December 3rd 2012, with new sanctions regime

http://consent.me.uk/2012/11/27/workfare/

#WorkProgramme #Workfare for sick and disabled people starts Dec 3rd 2012, with new sanctions regime http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/work-programme-memo-082.pdf … …

 

[Treacle Toes]

Behind the Scenes

Resistance on the Plinth: the why of it

Written by Liz Crow
A version of this article appears in the Journal of Literary and Cultural Disability Studies, March 2011.

http://www.roaring-girl.co.uk/productions/resistance-on-the-plinth/behind-the-scenes/

 

[weepiper]

This is a horrible development

http://antiworkfare.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-return-of-workhouse.html?spref=tw

The proposal offers tenants hit by the Bedroom Tax a deal to make up the shortfall in their rent by working for LMH doing odd jobs such as “litter picking” on LMH estates. Tenants would also be shunted into training (work) programmes with local charities to secure a roof over their heads. Coffey coats the proposed workhouse scheme with a voluntary varnish, but how voluntary is voluntary when it is conditional? Well, it’s not voluntary, at all, when the threat of eviction forces tenants into the scheme

Also this:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/137633/response/336517/attach/html/4/Adviser Guidance FOI Version 1112.pdf.html

Formal work history is defined as paid work of over 16 hours a week for either
a continuous period of six months, or two blocks that make up six months
(e.g. 2 periods of 3 months, or 1 period of 4 months plus another period of 2
months).
Please Note: work history must be since leaving full-time education – Work
history whilst in full-time education is not relevant

So you could have held down a 2-day a week job for years, possibly at the same time as doing a degree, which surely amply shows ability to time-manage/prioritise/multitask/be responsible and punctual etc etc but these bastards would still tell you you have no experience of work and that you have to go and work for free for 13 weeks 'to gain experience' or lose your benefits. I see it makes mention of covering 'reasonable costs of paid childcare' and children are not mentioned at all in the exemption bits which suggests not being able to find childcare to go on one of these fucking slave labour placements if you're a single parent would get you a sanction.

 

[BigTom]

This is a horrible development

http://antiworkfare.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-return-of-workhouse.html?spref=tw



Also this:

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/137633/response/336517/attach/html/4/Adviser Guidance FOI Version 1112.pdf.html



So you could have held down a 2-day a week job for years, possibly at the same time as doing a degree, which surely amply shows ability to time-manage/prioritise/multitask/be responsible and punctual etc etc but these bastards would still tell you you have no experience of work and that you have to go and work for free for 13 weeks 'to gain experience' or lose your benefits. I see it makes mention of covering 'reasonable costs of paid childcare' and children are not mentioned at all in the exemption bits which suggests not being able to find childcare to go on one of these fucking slave labour placements if you're a single parent would get you a sanction.

If you hear of this happening to anyone and it doesn't get overturned on appeal then I'd suggest that would be worth taking to court, I really doubt that the ECHR would allow that to happen.

But yeah the above in all is totally shit - work for your home directly more or less.

 

[Greebo]

If you hear of this happening to anyone and it doesn't get overturned on appeal then I'd suggest that would be worth taking to court, I really doubt that the ECHR would allow that to happen.

But yeah the above in all is totally shit - work for your home directly more or less.

And how do you suggest that a claimant gets it taken that far, given the severe cutbacks on what Legal Aid can help you with?

 

[BigTom]

And how do you suggest that a claimant gets it taken that far, given the severe cutbacks on what Legal Aid can help you with?

Well, until April 2013 that's not a problem, after then I think you'd find a children's charity who'd take up or pay for the case or I think we'd be able to get a solicitor to do it for free/cheap and fundraise to cover costs. For the most part benefit cases are totally screwed by the legal aid cuts but I think a situation like that above would see organisations/people support the case.. "think of the children, oh won't someone think of the children".
We're basically talking about a situation where someone either leaves their kids at home alone or doesn't have food for them. Barnardo's being the dicks they are probably wouldn't care but others would I reckon.

 

[Greebo]

Well, until April 2013 that's not a problem, after then I think you'd find a children's charity who'd take up or pay for the case or I think we'd be able to get a solicitor to do it for free/cheap and fundraise to cover costs. <snip>
We're basically talking about a situation where someone either leaves their kids at home alone or doesn't have food for them. Barnardo's being the dicks they are probably wouldn't care but others would I reckon.

Even so, that's nothing to rely on. Benefit payment is often stopped while you appeal - what does the claimant live on 'til then? foodbanks don't cover the rent or fuel bills.

 

[Treacle Toes]

http://www.tesco.com/foodbank/

@boycottworkfare I guess the plan is that people will buy food from Tesco to give to food banks for people who work at Tesco

@boycottworkfare Tesco also has plenty of free labour; maybe if they paid people wages there wouldn't be as much a need for food banks.

Are tescos still involved in Workfare?

*goes to check

Tesco are still involved in the scheme

http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?page_id=16

Maximising profit at every level... Every little helps.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Depressing info about Housing Associations milking their tenants with regard the work programme, scroll down on this blog:

http://antiworkfare.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-return-of-workhouse.html

 

[stuff_it]

Depressing info about Housing Associations milking their tenants with regard the work programme, scroll down on this blog:

http://antiworkfare.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-return-of-workhouse.html

Suffering fuck.

 

[stuff_it]

http://www.tesco.com/foodbank/





Are tescos still involved in Workfare?

*goes to check



http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?page_id=16

Maximising profit at every level... Every little helps.

If you read the food drive bs they aren't even really topping it up by 30% either.