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Smith and Gideon to announce ten billion more cuts in benefits, including stopping housing benefit for under twenty fives:mad:

war on youth continues...

thing is, all this doesn't seem to help their poll ratings...
 
TheHoodedClaw said:
Michael Fallon (a tory MP) has just said that under-25's don't deserve the same respect and dignity as older people on radio 5live. From about 22:20 on Stephen Nolan's show - don't listen if your blood pressure is already high. Fucking cunt of a man.
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Someone should remind the worthless sack of shit that he shouldn't judge everyone by his own lack of use to the human race.
 
TheHoodedClaw said:
Michael Fallon (a tory MP) has just said that under-25's don't deserve the same respect and dignity as older people on radio 5live. From about 22:20 on Stephen Nolan's show - don't listen if your blood pressure is already high. Fucking cunt of a man.
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Another one for the dart board. :mad:
 
"are you really saying, are you really saying, that if you have fallen out with your parents, that you just can't move back in with them for a bit, and save up to get on the housing ladder?" - Michael Fallon (paraphrased from memory)

The whole interview is horrible. If I remember in the morning I'll post the iPlayer link.
 
TheHoodedClaw said:
"are you really saying, are you really saying, that if you have fallen out with your parents, that you just can't move back in with them for a bit, and save up to get on the housing ladder?" - Michael Fallon (paraphrased from memory)

The whole interview is horrible. If I remember in the morning I'll post the iPlayer link.
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:facepalm::mad: Where do you even start with someone that fucking clueless about the reality of people's lives.
 
Michael Fallon (a tory MP) has just said that under-25's don't deserve the same respect and dignity as older people on radio 5live. From about 22:20 on Stephen Nolan's show - don't listen if your blood pressure is already high. Fucking cunt of a man.
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If this was any other European country and I don't just mean Southern Europe, there would be hell to play and the youth would come out en masse, how can they tolerate such a war on them?

btw, I don't use FB, perhaps someone could post his insult on young people's pages like UK Uncut...
 
Might be worthwhile reading the right wing Policy Exchange thinktank's 2011 document "something for nothing".

They would like to see unemployed people spend a full working week "job seeking" online with every log-on clocked, every web-page watched, page-view reading-speed timed, and every keystroke monitored.

and much more

1984 really is here

for the plebs...
 
Greebo said:
Another one for the dart board. :mad:
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We're going to need a bigger dartboard.

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treelover said:
Might be worthwhile reading the right wing Policy Exchange thinktank's 2011 document "something for nothing".

They would like to see unemployed people spend a full working week "job seeking" online with every log-on clocked, every web-page watched, page-view reading-speed timed, and every keystroke monitored.

and much more

1984 really is here

for the plebs...
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...as well as the 30 hours community work...
 
TheHoodedClaw said:
"are you really saying, are you really saying, that if you have fallen out with your parents, that you just can't move back in with them for a bit, and save up to get on the housing ladder?" - Michael Fallon (paraphrased from memory)

The whole interview is horrible. If I remember in the morning I'll post the iPlayer link.
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Yes please do!
 
wow. Stephen Nolan did do well imo, this guy is a fucking idiot. Nolan pulling out lots of the obvious reasons why the HB cut for u25s can't work.

Nolan talks about young people in NI he interviewed last week who talked about being suicidal at the thought of moving back with parents. Asking what young people do if parents say no, you can't move back in.

"because you can't get on with your own parents you should suddenly be entitled to someone elses house at their expense?"

Fallon thinks they are getting more houses built. hahahaha. "help those first time buyers get on the ladder" fuck sake like people can afford deposits etc.
"we can't say everybody is entitled to a council house because they can't get on with their parents"

Now asking about newly married couples with kids. Apparently no-one has a right or entitlement to a home of their own "just because they have got married or are 22". fucking scum. Couldn't answer why someone who is 24 and worked since 16 is less entitled to HB than a 40 year old.

Asked about how people will move to look for work. Apparently no-one is entitled to a house just because they want to look for work. But HB is being cut because apparently people on HB don't want to work and won't work unless forced to by threat of homelessness.
Can he not see the contradiction here? Apparently not.

fucking scum scum scum.
 
BigTom said:
wow. Stephen Nolan did do well imo, this guy is a fucking idiot. Nolan pulling out lots of the obvious reasons why the HB cut for u25s can't work.

"because you can't get on with your own parents you should suddenly be entitled to someone elses house at their expense?"

Nolan talks about young people in NI he interviewed last week who talked about being suicidal at the thought of moving back with parents. Asking what young people do if parents say no, you can't move back in.

Fallon thinks they are getting more houses built. hahahaha. "help those first time buyers get on the ladder" fuck sake like people can afford deposits etc.
"we can't say everybody is entitled to a council house because they can't get on with their parents"

Now asking about newly married couples with kids. Apparently no-one has a right or entitlement to a home of their own "just because they have got married or are 22". fucking scum. Couldn't answer why someone who is 24 and worked since 16 is less entitled to HB than a 40 year old.

Asked about how people will move to look for work. Apparently no-one is entitled to a house just because they want to look for work. But HB is being cut because apparently people on HB don't want to work and won't work unless forced to by threat of homelessness.
Can he not see the contradiction here? Apparently not.

fucking scum scum scum.
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Wow, talk about stuck in a time warp - most places people would be over 25 by the time they came to the top of the waiting list for social housing anyway! :facepalm:

'We're saving them from themselves' :mad: :facepalm:

Then he starts quoting the 'million new jobs' in the private sector - shame about all the job cuts in the public sector that have virtually wiped those out. And nice one for bringing up apprenticeships - I wonder how many of those are mickey mouse apprenticeships that are used as an excuse to pay young people a fraction of a living wage to learn things that in the past needed no training at all.

Never mind that it's actually nearly impossible to get help as a homeless person under most circumstances.
 
Osborne is such a cunt. Here comes the punishing the kids part.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...its-Osborne-vows-slash-10bn-welfare-bill.html

I hate him. And his stupid smug fat rich pals. Also, this part:

cuntychops said:
He told BBC Breakfast: 'I speak directly to your viewers who are probably getting ready for work, they are going to work hard all day to provide for their families, they pay taxes, we use those taxes to fund the National Health Service, to support our schools and the police.
'I just wonder whether it is right that a third of all that money they raise in taxes goes on welfare and of that some £80 billion goes to support the welfare of those out of work.'
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I think that's a lie. I don't think a third of your taxes go on welfare, I think it's considerably less than that.
 
weepiper said:
Osborne is such a cunt. Here comes the punishing the kids part.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...its-Osborne-vows-slash-10bn-welfare-bill.html

I hate him. And his stupid smug fat rich pals. Also, this part:




I think that's a lie. I don't think a third of your taxes go on welfare, I think it's considerably less than that.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...one-statement-revealing-tax-goes-welfare.html

Yeah it is about 1/3rd - but 2/3rds of that goes to pensioners..
 
weepiper said:
ah maybe that's why I had it in my head then, he's banking on people hearing 'welfare' and thinking 'dole scroungers' for the whole figure. So in fact, less of your taxes goes on working-age benefits than goes on education.
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yep, far less. JSA is only about 3% of the welfare budget, even when you include HB & CTB paid to unemployed people it's only a small part of the welfare budget. They always push pensions/pension age benefits together with working age benefits to inflate the apparent cost of it.
 
Btw, demos(now funded by Mastercard) is hawking a poll that claims 90% of people polled agreed that the state should control some element of spending of a claimants benefits, such as stopping it being spent on fags, and holidays!

Is this fucking North Korea? i don't believe them, 90% is a massive amount of agreement and would include urbanites, their family, their friends, their work colleagues, etc for it to reach that figure..
 
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