campaign against welfare cuts and poverty

[treelover]

It was a CIF comment, if you don't think I should have posted it, fair enough, but new information has to come from somewhere, I imagine other CIF'ers will be attempting to verify the issue.

 

[ddraig]

It was a CIF comment, if you don't think I should have posted it, fair enough, but new information has to come from somewhere, I imagine other CIF'ers will be attempting to verify the issue.

so it wasn't on a web page then?
post what you like of course.
it would be good and helpful if you could make the effort to back up with links however.
otherwise why should people believe you?

 

[NoXion]

Why would treelover be asking for verification of a comment that they supposedly just made up?

 

[Frances Lengel]

Thraigo, why do you always feel the need to get on treelover's case in that nasty, bullying way of yours?

don't believe you

Why would he make it up?

posted on CIF, any verification, very alarming if true.

so it wasn't on a web page then?
post what you like of course.
it would be good and helpful if you could make the effort to back up with links however.
otherwise why should people believe you?

Honestly, why snipe like this on a thread on which we're all meant to be on the same side against welfare cuts etc? You should've said something along the lines of "Have you got a link for that please?" Rather than the pointlessly confrontational "Don't believe you" - Have you never fancied joining the Taxpayers Alliance or something? Coz you do more harm than good on our side.

 

[ddraig]

tried asking many times for links as many others have

'our side' go away franny

 

[Awesome Wells]

Doesn't seem unreasonable (ie unbelievable - it is unreasonable) that staff would refer to people like that. Claimants are already called customers ffs. We're already through the looking glass people!

 

[Awesome Wells]

http://www.localgov.co.uk/Council-cancels-pre-paid-benefit-card-trial/37384

North Tyneside Council has cancelled a project to trial pre-paid benefit cards following ‘inaccurate’ accusations it was to target people with drug and alcohol problems.
The council said ‘negative and inaccurate’ coverage in the media had undermined the credibility of the scheme and meant only two people volunteered to take part.

 

[NoXion]

Because targeting people with drug & alcohol problems was the only problem anyone ever had with the idea.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Disabled woman wets herself in busy jobcentre after not being allowed to use the toilet.

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...ot_allowed_to_use_Jobcentre_toilet/?ref=fbshr

Jobcentre spokestwunt trying to make excuses by saying that the woman was abusive towards staff, but who wouldn't be abusive to someone who treated them like that? A sharp word is the very least of what these uncaring automotons deserve.

And they're gonna start making people spend all day, every day in the jobcentre. How people are supposed to do that when there's no toilets, no drinking water etc is anyone's guess.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Disabled woman wets herself in busy jobcentre after not being allowed to use the toilet.

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...ot_allowed_to_use_Jobcentre_toilet/?ref=fbshr

Jobcentre spokestwunt trying to make excuses by saying that the woman was abusive towards staff, but who wouldn't be abusive to someone who treated them like that? A sharp word is the very least of what these uncaring automotons deserve.

And they're gonna start making people spend all day, every day in the jobcentre. How people are supposed to do that when there's no toilets, no drinking water etc is anyone's guess.

They justify treating someone with zero dignity and then complain that they were insulted?

That's twisted!

Not only that, but the dig toward the customer - according to the article - coems from nowhere. There is no evidence presented of her being abusive at all, but these fascist cunts (there's some abuse for you, pigfuckers) have to manufacture something.

Fuck's sake, again, where are the fucking PCS?

 

[treelover]

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/re-think-pre-paid-benefit-cards


petition on 38 degrees, over 45'00 signed it already, I don't think it is as popular as the Tories think.

 

[treelover]

http://www.localgov.co.uk/Council-cancels-pre-paid-benefit-card-trial/37384

Supporter of devolution/localism should remember that councils, including labour ones, can be just as ruthless, sometimes even more than central govt.

 

[treelover]

Deputy mayor, Cllr Bruce Pickard said the council had already successfully used pre-paid cards for direct payment clients and hoped the pre-paid benefits card would have helped those who struggled financially.
Mr Pickard said: ‘For people on low budgets who have to manage their spending very carefully, and rely on cash transactions because many don't have a full bank account, it can be very difficult for them to pay direct debits and access better prices by using online shopping.
‘We wanted to give those people a financial life-line to better managing their finances so they could be more independent in the future and provide them with great choices.’

The council said it had no plans to restrict how the card could be used and would not have shared information with the DWP on individual spending. The council needed 250 volunteers to make the project viable.

I don't believe you.

The council said it had no plans to restrict how the card could be used and would not have shared information with the DWP on individual spending.

Bet they would have shared the anonomysed(sic) information on 'spending habits' though. Further, direct payments has nothing to do with the DWP, so why mention them.

 

[Awesome Wells]

How do they even think a card could work? In terms of actual basic functionality? Is it like those prepaid cards you can get for Google Play or Itunes? Or does the money go to a DWP account set aside for individuals that can only be accessed using a card? I can't even fathom how the card itself would work, never mind that even using a card won't be dfeasible for so many things.

 

[BigTom]

How do they even think a card could work? In terms of actual basic functionality? Is it like those prepaid cards you can get for Google Play or Itunes? Or does the money go to a DWP account set aside for individuals that can only be accessed using a card? I can't even fathom how the card itself would work, never mind that even using a card won't be dfeasible for so many things.

It will just be a pre paid master card or visa I reckon, so you could use it anywhere that accepts cards, which rules out the cheapest place to buy fruit and veg in brum and lots of local shops, plus minimum £5 spend cos of charges to the shop by the card company.

 

[Awesome Wells]

It will just be a pre paid master card or visa I reckon, so you could use it anywhere that accepts cards, which rules out the cheapest place to buy fruit and veg in brum and lots of local shops, plus minimum £5 spend cos of charges to the shop by the card company.

Bank charges are not permissible in the US on their card/foodstamp system.

But those cards - how does the money get onto them? Does that mean that every tweo weeks, when you sign on (or monthly, under UC), you then have to wait for a new card in the post? How much will that cost? What happens if your postie has sticky fingers?

 

[tufty79]

plus minimum £5 spend cos of charges to the shop by the card company.

They just charge a flat 50p here, regardless of how much you spend.

 

[BigTom]

Bank charges are not permissible in the US on their card/foodstamp system.

But those cards - how does the money get onto them? Does that mean that every tweo weeks, when you sign on (or monthly, under UC), you then have to wait for a new card in the post? How much will that cost? What happens if your postie has sticky fingers?

I dunno tbf. They can probably be topped up remotely but I bet they'd do it like gas/leccy cards with a machine in the job centre so when you go to sign on, you top up your card with the month's uc... if your advisor decides you've jumped through enough hoops to be worthy of course

 

[BigTom]

They just charge a flat 50p here, regardless of how much you spend.

That'd be even more fucked

 

[Awesome Wells]

I dunno tbf. They can probably be topped up remotely but I bet they'd do it like gas/leccy cards with a machine in the job centre so when you go to sign on, you top up your card with the month's uc... if your advisor decides you've jumped through enough hoops to be worthy of course

And that would be another massive expense. If it broke down they'd be open riots in the office!

 

[Bakunin]

According to Lord Freud, we disabled folk aren't worth the minimum wage, either:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/15/lord-freud-minimum-wage_n_5988374.html

 

[Awesome Wells]

Apply for jobs online even if you can't

 

[Celyn]

According to Lord Freud, we disabled folk aren't worth the minimum wage, either:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/15/lord-freud-minimum-wage_n_5988374.html

He is a nasty piece of work. Never elected to anything, but a favourite of Tony Blair, and now of David Cameron.

Very nasty type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Freud,_Baron_Freud#Education

 

[Awesome Wells]

Artist Taxi Driver interviews Paula Peters from DPAC.





You can hear the effect of scum like IDS on her.

 

[8115]

C4 Dispatches on Universal Credit now. I don't know how good it will be.

 

[Awesome Wells]

A stat from C4's research claims 90% of claimants are in arrears with 1/3 facing eviction.

 

[Awesome Wells]

"I'm quite surprised that staff are reporting difficulties with their workload; everyone i've spoken to says it and I are both, quite splendid"

Mark Harper, minister for the culling.

 

[Awesome Wells]

DWP fake tweets? surely not?

http://usvsth3m.com/post/101163174433/would-the-dwp-write-fake-tweets-to-pretend-that

And how exactly has UC helped this person get a 'permenant' job?

 

[Awesome Wells]

http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2014/...-tories-think-incapacity-claimants-arent-ill/

Tories floating ideas that ESA should be reduced to about 30p dearer than current JSA.

 

[superfly101]

http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2014/...-tories-think-incapacity-claimants-arent-ill/

Tories floating ideas that ESA should be reduced to about 30p dearer than current JSA.

Well you need some outrageous headline for fuckwitted muppets to cling on too whilst....

you secretly slip Maximus further into the fold

http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2014/10/29/maximus-are-the-new-atos-destroy-maximus/