Mr.Bishie
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I'll bet it felt like an adventure at the time.
I doubt it. There were external factors at work I feel.
I'll bet it felt like an adventure at the time.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.I doubt it. There were external factors at work I feel.
Leaving your country of birth at 15 to join Daesh is far from an "adventure/scrape"
They admitted that themselves up thread
Of course that unborn child is the most important thing ffs!
What risk to other lives are you on about?
Anyone that has to go over there to sort this mess out. Syria is far from safe anywhere. And the risk to anyone here that bringing her back might increase.
The baby is her responsibility when/if its born, as where the other two that died due to her decisions.
She's not in the UK.Why would any relevant UK authorities need to travel to Syria when she's now in the UK?
I doubt it. There were external factors at work I feel.
I did some silly things in my youth. I didn't, however, travel half way around the world to enthusiastically volunteer physical and emotional support to men whom I knew were raping, torturing, and murdering people, because I believed in their bigotry.
Can you expand on this please?
She's not in the UK.
This young girl was fucking coerced into something she didn't want to do, & you fuckin well know it.
We really don't know that.This young girl was fucking coerced into something she didn't want to do, & you fuckin well know it.
Do you have the evidence for that, or it is just speculation?
We really don't know that.
At 15/16 when I joined the Forces, I had absolutely no idea of what the British State were doing in NI.
This young girl was fucking coerced into something she didn't want to do, & you fuckin well know it.
That's a bit whatabouterry, though. Of course the world is an awful place full of cunts and the cunts in power are the worst of the lot. But as chilango asked earlier, there is a solid practical problem for all of us here with people like this woman returning to the UK. How do we, as a society, deal with such a situation? Do we say and do nothing and just let them slip quietly back in? No doubt that has happened in one or two cases where people have flown under the radar, but when we know who they are and even help them to return? Then what do we do? I don't think the fact that the UK's political leaders also have blood on their hands helps to answer that question.
In all, 428 terrorists, including 143 serving life sentences, had been released since the scheme began 22 months ago. Mass killers and bombers, many responsible for the worst atrocities during 30 years of violence in the province, walked free today to be welcomed by cheering supporters.
IRA men, UDA and UFF men, men from the UVF, LVF and INLA, they all walked. The prison service made sure the releases were phased and that republicans and loyalists did not bump into each other in the car parks of the high security prison. Indeed, they ensured rival loyalists were kept well apart from each other.
Ok, so now it is your turn to be a dick.Bring her back & hang her then. Job done.
At 15/16 when I joined the Forces, I had absolutely no idea of what the British State were doing in NI.
This young girl was fucking coerced into something she didn't want to do, & you fuckin well know it.
See my last post to the lawyer. Christ on a bike!
Indeed. She says:By the time she joined, what IS was doing was well known. And I've seen no evidence of any coercion; she makes no such claim.
"I applied to marry an English-speaking fighter between 20 and 25 years old,"
Ok, so now it is your turn to be a dick.
You suggested a dichotomy of either she was coerced against her will or she is to be condemned in a way that precludes any possibility of redemption. I don't accept that dichotomy. fwiw I think it's unlikely she went against her will. She probably went rather enthusiastically. That means she has to take some responsibility for her actions, but it does not mean she is beyond redemption or deserves to be locked away forever.I’ve been here long enough to prove that I’m not. But sometimes I do like to jump on the bandwagon
By the time she joined, what IS was doing was well known. And I've seen no evidence of any coercion; she makes no such claim.
Yep, ISIS were around the height of their powers when Begum and her classmates ran away, they would have known all about the Yazidis, the beheading of hostages etc. - they ran away in Feb. 2015, about two weeks after ISIS made headlines around the world by releasing a video of a captured pilot being burned alive in a cage.
You suggested a dichotomy of either she was coerced against her will or she is to be condemned in a way that precludes any possibility of redemption. I don't accept that dichotomy. fwiw I think it's unlikely she went against her will. She probably went rather enthusiastically. That means she has to take some responsibility for her actions, but it does not mean she is beyond redemption or deserves to be locked away forever.
Where have I said that???? I've said explicitly that I would support the idea that the UK govt helps her and her child to come back. Fucksake.Yet you couldn’t give a fuck about her unborn.