littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
See that's where the 'being a dick' bit comes in, imo. It is using her Bangladeshi ancestry against her without her having done any action to push herself towards Bangladeshi nationality. That's ethnicity.
British IS schoolgirl 'wants to return home'
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Athos
Well-Known Member
Where do you stand on the deportation of (solely) foreign nationals?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
No it's not.
Nationality is not ethnicity.. she could be as white European as newly fallen snow, if one of her parents was born in Bangladesh then she would be in exactly the same legal position that she is now.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Yes of course and there are plenty of people in this country who have dual citizenship with 'nice' countries, It's just that all the current cases in the news are of people who hold dual citizenship with places that are largely shitholes and there seems to be a certain mentality of let's punish them further by packing them off there. But the principle should still stand. It doesn't matter whether your other citizenship is Canadian, Irish, Sudanese, Pakistani or Syrian, if your British citizenship was acquired by birth (and the legal process by which that happens is clearly defined) then you can't lose it.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Well technically Yes but I suspect blond blue-eyed Bangladeshi are rarer than hen's teeth.
And a slight edit to that being born in Bangladesh does not grant you Bangladeshi citizenship if neither of your parents are citizens.
Athos
Well-Known Member
I guess the argument is that this law is more likely to affect ethnic minorities, and he believes such indirect discrimination isn't justifiable in any circumstances. Is that your position littlebabyjesus?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Talk about chucking a drowning man a lifeline!
maomao
普費斯
It clearly meets the legal definition of indirect racial discrimination.
Athos
Well-Known Member
It doesn't.
A dual national considered to be a danger to public safety who is racially Bangladeshi wouldn't be in a worse position than one who was, say, racially European. (The comparator should have materially the same circumstances, but for protected characteristic, as per s.23 Equality Act 2010, as detailed in the explanatory note, and reiterated by the Supreme Court in Essop.)
And even if it was prima facie indirect discrimination, it'd fall foul of s.19(2)(d), as it's a proportionate means (it only affects a tiny minority of dual nationals) to achieve a legitimate aim (public safety).
Also, even if you could show a disproportionate applicability by race, any argument that this is indirect discrimination against those with dual nationality who haven't been stripped of British citizenship would fail because they wouldn't satisfy the criteria of that they have been/will be put at a disadvantage (s.19(2)(c)).
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1. why is it a “bold assertion” that I don’t need to prove my worth to people I don’t know in a public forum? I’m not inviting you round for Christmas dinner.
2. when you tell someone they “have no worth to show”, that could be construed as another example of bullying, or at least some kind of intimidation tactic, e.g. “don’t pick a fight with the big cheese”
3. which leads me back to the fromage. Anyone with as much history in a place as yours is likely to be seen as an elder, influencer, or dare I say it — an untouchable. That’s your platform, mate, and you know it as well as I do. That is your bully pulpit.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Christmas dinner 
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Mate, you are a dick.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Tool, surely?
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Don't hammer him.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
That’s plane to see.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yeah, we all saw that.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Could have said stupid assertion, but I thought I'd be nice and say bold assertion. For someone who thinks people should prove their worth in communities in which they move you've a very peculiar attitude in which other people have to show their value but you don't. Xmas dinner? Many friendships have started here and indeed relationships and families. Don't make out this is some lesser version of reality, or you'll really show how worthless (or worthy) you are.
You keep making out I'm a big cheese and I'm trying to intimidate you. I am not a big cheese. There are better respected posters here than me. There are angrier posters here than me. And frankly there are posters who know more about cheese here than me. I'm not seen as an elder, an influencer, an untouchable. That's you projecting your views onto me rather than looking at any actual evidence.
I don't think you'll last long here, because you seem determined to make yourself obnoxious. Not up to me of course whether you sink or swim here. But you're the one tying lead weights to your feet
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
It's an oft repeated comment found in the comments sections on local newspaper websites, spouted by the fashy elements there. "Strip their citizenship and deport them" basically goes with the far right territory.
angry talk radio listeners want to go around gifting people British citizenship just so they can immediately take it away.
that'll show 'em!
not-bono-ever
meh
Her mental state must be wrecked you know. the interviews showed that he might not be on top of her life.
/stirs the pot
/stands back
/stirs the pot
/stands back
Clever stuff from clearly the brightest minds in the country. Yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
nogojones
spelling is overrated
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
That's the spirit (level)!
ice-is-forming
I was born naked, shameless & fucking outrageous..
Riveting stuff but I heard he's a disrupter!
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