Brexit Day - will you be celebrating, mourning or not bothered?

[SpookyFrank]

Meanwhile, in the liberal paradise that is the EU:



But it's OK, if you allow this shit to happen on your watch you get (checks notes) elected president of the European Council

 

[Reno]

You make it sound like the EU supports this. The European Parliament has voted to condemn LGBT free zones and has specified that EU funds can't be used for discriminatory purposes. That was in December, hopefully it's a first step.

Parliament strongly condemns ‘‘LGBTI-free zones’’ in Poland | News | European Parliament

MEPs urge the Commission to condemn all public acts of discrimination against LGBTI people, notably the development of so-called ‘LGBTI-free zones’ in Poland.

www.europarl.europa.eu

 

[tommers]

They're much more likely to take notice of us now we've left.

 

[tim]

Quite a fitting departure I thought.

The EU speaker (or whatever they’re called) physically repelled by the sight of a national flag, like a vampire being hit with sunlight, then muting the mic, then having a hissy fit because Farage’s speech contained the word ‘hate’ ffs

Now we need to get Martiex done!

 

[Proper Tidy]

You make it sound like the EU supports this. The European Parliament has voted to condemn LGBT free zones and has specified that EU funds can't be used for discriminatory purposes. That was in December, hopefully it's a first step.

Parliament strongly condemns ‘‘LGBTI-free zones’’ in Poland | News | European Parliament

MEPs urge the Commission to condemn all public acts of discrimination against LGBTI people, notably the development of so-called ‘LGBTI-free zones’ in Poland.

www.europarl.europa.eu

It's great that the EU takes such strong action against Poland and Hungary by errr allowing them to remain full members with full benefits of a trade bloc of which they are net beneficiaries

 

[SpookyFrank]

It's great that the EU takes such strong action against Poland and Hungary by errr allowing them to remain full members with full benefits of a trade bloc of which they are net beneficiaries

Init. Human rights is just a coat of polish on the big turd of neoliberalism. Imagine if Poland was doing state aid instead of merely persecuting gay folk, their feet wouldn't touch the ground.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Init. Human rights is just a coat of polish on the big turd of neoliberalism. Imagine if Poland was doing state aid instead of merely persecuting gay folk, their feet wouldn't touch the ground.

Put roma into camps, oh here is a firm speech, meet our fiscal targets through tax revenue not public spending cuts THIS IS WAR!!!

 

[Proper Tidy]

Honestly whatever your position on leave or remain, fuck the EU, a disgusting cunt of a suprastate

 

[Marty1]

One soundbite in the mornings media is we are now in the departure lounge.

Hope it’s one of those luxury ones, well stocked with sandwiches, cakes, beer and coffee etc.

 

[Yossarian]

One soundbite in the mornings media is we are now in the departure lounge.

Hope it’s one of those luxury ones, well stocked with sandwiches, cakes, beer and coffee etc.

 

[existentialist]

If only Corbs had backed Brexit

If wishes were horses...

 

[Reno]

Init. Human rights is just a coat of polish on the big turd of neoliberalism. Imagine if Poland was doing state aid instead of merely persecuting gay folk, their feet wouldn't touch the ground.

Not your problem anymore. Get your own xenophobic, homophobic post-Brexit country in order:

Homophobic and transphobic hate crimes surge in England and Wales

Offences double since 2014 against gay and lesbian people and treble against trans people, Guardian analysis reveals

www.theguardian.com

Brexit: A perfect summary of Britain’s flaws

Brexit was a moment when Britain as a nation looked in the mirror and saw the division and disharmony that had long been in plain view. And now? Four suggestions

www.zeit.de

Bye, bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out...

 

[brogdale]

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Departing (late) from Neolibopolis for a long, expensive and turbulent flight that returns to Neolibopolis.

 

[existentialist]

Fwiu, they had to smuggle them in as the EU Stasi had banned them out of spite.

I'll say one thing for you, Marty1 - nobody could accuse you of having a nuanced viewpoint

 

[The39thStep]

Not your problem anymore. Get your own xenophobic, homophobic post-Brexit country in order:

Homophobic and transphobic hate crimes surge in England and Wales

Offences double since 2014 against gay and lesbian people and treble against trans people, Guardian analysis reveals

www.theguardian.com

Brexit: A perfect summary of Britain’s flaws

Brexit was a moment when Britain as a nation looked in the mirror and saw the division and disharmony that had long been in plain view. And now? Four suggestions

www.zeit.de

Bye, bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out...

Touché

Attacks on LGBT+ people increase in Germany – DW – 09/26/2019

The Interior Ministry has said there has been a rise in reported instances of anti-LGBT+-related crime in recent years. Political figures insist more action needs to be taken.

www.dw.com

 

[Idris2002]

They're much more likely to take notice of us now we've left.

Sorry, who are you again?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Touché
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We have an early contender for the award for 'Most Meaningless Graph of the Year'.

 

[Proper Tidy]

You have to give the EU credit really, despite all the evidence to the contrary it manages to maintain the popular perception that it's a bastion of democracy and liberalism and some sort of fluffy nordic social democracy or something. Doesn't really matter what it does, sends refugees to turkey, cunts off developing world, makes member states cut social spending to point of suicide epidemics, still there will be huge swathes who buy this shit. Excellent branding really. LibDems should take note.

 

[brogdale]

Guardian article from the day the UK entered the, then, EEC:




"It was difficult to tell that anything of importance had occurred.."

This bit caught the eye...

 

[BoatieBird]

Some absolute cunt has put up some posters at work - a union jack with 'EU free zone' written on them
One of them was at the entrance to the corridor where our (largely European) research students are based.
The student who found it was in tears.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Some absolute cunt has put up some posters at work - a union jack with 'EU free zone' written on them
One of them was at the entrance to the corridor where our (largely European) research students are based.
The student who found it was in tears.

Fucks sake these people. You'd think they'd be happy by now, but no they still need to boost their egos by waving shitty flags in people's faces. Then we've got people on here giving it the 'guten riddance mein freunde, ve vill not miss you und your shitty backwater country at all haha!' and you can't help but see the exact same mindest in that.

 

[marty21]

Some absolute cunt has put up some posters at work - a union jack with 'EU free zone' written on them
One of them was at the entrance to the corridor where our (largely European) research students are based.
The student who found it was in tears.

In my London 'bubble' I don't hear a lot of talk about brexit - for or against - you are correct in your assessment of that person.

 

[Reno]

So why is it that as a gay man who has moved from London to Berlin (in part because of Brexit) I feel so much safer here than I did there ? Despite a rise in homophobic attacks in Germany, recorded LGBT+ hate crimes in Berlin are in the hundreds, while in London they are in the thousands. Even accounting for that Berlin has half the population of London that's a massive difference.

It is true that the UK is ahead of Germany in terms of legislation, which does figure into those statistics but just waving a statistic around without knowing how to interpret it doesn't really cut it.

Berlin sees sharp increase in homophobic attacks – DW – 12/02/2019

Attacks against homosexual and transgender people in the German capital are up compared with 2018 figures, according to latest figures. The city's police chief has warned of an "increased polarization of society."

www.dw.com

Call for law change over increase in homophobic hate crimes in London

Hate attacks rise by 55% over five years in the capital, prompting calls for a change in the law.

www.bbc.com

 

[Edie]

I’m generally feeling glad it’s done.

 

[The39thStep]

Guardian article from the day the UK entered the, then, EEC:

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"It was difficult to tell that anything of importance had occurred.."

This bit caught the eye...

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Thats fascinating . Labour and the TUC opposed to entry.

Apparantly The Fanfare for Europe celebrations mentioned in the article not only included an Irish folk group but also a Common Market International football match match at Wembley between The Three (Common Market newcomers the UK, Ireland, and Denmark) and The Six (the market's founding nations) , a ballet gala, a vintage car rally from London to Brussels; a special episode of the talent show, Opportunity Knocks; and a beauty contest won by the Dutch model Sylvia Kristel ,Slade at the London Palladium, the Kinks played at Drury Lane, and there were performances by the Chieftains and Steeleye Span.

The Fanfare for Europe was a flop: Wembley Stadium was half empty, events were sparsely attended and the government was accused of squandering £350,000 of public money. Opinion polls, which had shown a slender majority for entry in January, quickly turned sour. By August, more than half of respondents thought Britain had been ‘wrong’ to join the Common Market; by Christmas, opponents of membership enjoyed a fourteen-point lead. By March 1974, just 12 per cent of the electorate ‘believed that we had obtained any benefit as a result of membership’.22 An official at the Department of Trade and Industry likened the public to ‘a crowd of holidaymakers who, after much doubt and expense, have made a dangerous journey only to find the climate chilly, the hotel not what it was cracked up to be and the food too expensive’. Ominously for the government, he concluded, ‘bloodthirsty feelings are mounting, not only towards the other nationalities in the hotel but to the courier who got them there’.23

The mood in Whitehall was similarly grim. When John Hunt became Cabinet secretary in November, he was struck by the ‘smell of death hanging over the government’.24 With his premiership disintegrating under the pressure of a miners’ strike, Heath was driven into an early election in February 1974. Defeat brought to power a Labour government under Harold Wilson, who shared none of Heath's fervour for the Community. The Labour manifesto promised ‘a fundamental renegotiation of the terms of entry’, to be followed by a referendum or a general election. It ended with a stark warning: if new, more satisfactory terms could not be agreed, Labour would seek a mandate from the public for ‘our withdrawal from the Communities’.

(Yes to Europe! The 1975 Referendum and Seventies Britain)

Also found this rather fetching outfit

 

[Riklet]

Pretty sure I'll wake up tomorrow and we will still be in Europe. But seriously we are not even close to leaving, yet.

And some fucking dickhead official will still be saying everything was perfect in 2015.

 

[The39thStep]

So why is it that as a gay man who has moved from London to Berlin (in part because of Brexit) I feel so much safer here than I did there ? Despite a rise in homophobic attacks in Germany, recorded LGBT+ hate crimes in Berlin are in the hundreds, while in London they are in the thousands. Even accounting for that Berlin has half the population of London that's a massive difference.

It is true that the UK is ahead of Germany in terms of legislation, which does figure into those statistics but just waving a statistic around without knowing how to interpret it doesn't really cut it.

Berlin sees sharp increase in homophobic attacks – DW – 12/02/2019

Attacks against homosexual and transgender people in the German capital are up compared with 2018 figures, according to latest figures. The city's police chief has warned of an "increased polarization of society."

www.dw.com

Call for law change over increase in homophobic hate crimes in London

Hate attacks rise by 55% over five years in the capital, prompting calls for a change in the law.

www.bbc.com

Dunno pal ,I dont think theres a standard EU way of recording crimes or incidents ,as the article says 'the increase in reported violence does not necessarily reflect the real figures.' . Perhaps speak to the ILGA (International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association) who compiled the rankings?

 

[Shirl]

I've cried twice today already. Now turned off the radio and won't be watching any TV news today. I fucking hate this country today.

 

[Ax^]

I’m generally feeling glad it’s done.

but it is not

still got years and years of the shit to go

 

[Reno]

Dunno pal ,I dont think theres a standard EU way of recording crimes or incidents ,as the article says 'the increase in reported violence does not necessarily reflect the real figures.' . Perhaps speak to the ILGA (International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association) who compiled the rankings?

Perhaps don't try and lecture someone who works for the Berlin LGBT+ center, what their quality of life is like as a gay man living in Germany.