Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19

[Pickman's model]

If someone was describing me as 'in a stable condition' I'd be fucking bricking it.

or mucking out stalls

 

[Pickman's model]

Aye it’s the ‘clinical’ part that looks a bit weird. I think that might have hospital-speak meanings.

Eta it’s complicated:

Criteria for clinical stability in hospitalised patients with community-acquired pneumonia

The American Thoracic Society (ATS) and Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) suggested two sets of criteria in 2001 and 2007 to define clinical stability in community-acquired pneumonia (CAP). The present study aimed to evaluate the level of agreement between these two sets of criteria...

erj.ersjournals.com

i wonder if uk doctors have adopted these american definitions.

 

[bimble]

i wonder if uk doctors have adopted these american definitions.

I know not. But the insertion of that word instead of just saying he’s stable struck me as a bit suspect is all.

 

[Pickman's model]

I know not. But the insertion of that word instead of just saying he’s stable struck me as a bit suspect is all.

yeh it's daft, it obscures more than it reveals, i wish he'd die or get better - stop leaving us all unsure about his condition.

 

[equationgirl]

I know not. But the insertion of that word instead of just saying he’s stable struck me as a bit suspect is all.

It may just be that whoever wrote the press briefing doesn't understand it.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Tbh this does make the situation much scarier. I can imagine if I was about to go to hospital myself I'd be terrified.

My GP tried to get me to attend A&E for a blood test a few weeks ago, as my blood sodium level was showing as dangerously low (as in "at risk of seizure and/or death" type of low). I refused, on the basis that I'm in 5 separate "at risk" groups, and that sitting in A&E for several hours would probably see me off quicker and more surely than a seizure would!!!

 

[ViolentPanda]

What blood type is BoJo?

Pomerol 2005.

 

[Pickman's model]

i wonder who'll die first, the 93 year auld queen or the 55 year auld prime minister

 

[Sprocket.]

They said earliier in the week he’s on 40l free flow oxygen. He’s probably got ECG sensors and an oxygen/blood level monitor. And feeling proper poorly.
In my experience in ICU you also have a couple of central lines direct into your arteries, surgical drains, two cannulas, a catheter and a spinal epidural. As well as the inability to lift your chin off your chest. So being stable in an ICU means he’s okay under the circumstances.

 

[ViolentPanda]

i wonder who'll die first, the 93 year auld queen or the 55 year auld prime minister

Maybe they'll do a mixed double, and both kark on the same day?

 

[muscovyduck]

Even if he's stable that means the odds are getting worse for him as time goes on, right?

 

[Sprocket.]

Maybe they'll do a mixed double, and both kark on the same day?

O/T Has anyone else noticed a rise in TV adverts for funerals?

 

[Pickman's model]

Even if he's stable that means the odds are getting worse for him as time goes on, right?

yes

 

[ViolentPanda]

Wasn't it Raab that was coughing all over everyone a few weeks back?

I was also thinking... Mortality rate is what between 1-5 percent. There are 600+ MPs sitting in parliament. Not all will catch it, but I'll let you do the maths.

CAn we nominate the 6-30-ish MPs we'd most like to shuffle off this mortal coil?

 

[Pickman's model]

CAn we nominate the 6-30-ish MPs we'd most like to shuffle off this mortal coil?

shurely 650-ish

 

[killer b]

O/T Has anyone else noticed a rise in TV adverts for funerals?

makes sense, it's one of the few growth markets rn.

 

[ViolentPanda]

BBC now reporting his condition as "stable" and the man himself is "in good spirits".

Think he'll make it to the weekend?

Good spirits? Johnson is on the vintage armagnac, then.

 

[ViolentPanda]

shurely 650-ish

A fair point, well made.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

CAn we nominate the 6-30-ish MPs we'd most like to shuffle off this mortal coil?

Start a thread and I'll participate!!

 

[Tankus]

I would have thought that the lords would be a prime target

 

[JimW]

makes sense, it's one of the few growth markets rn.

Expect cruise lines have cut back a bit on the budget then.

 

[Espresso]

O/T Has anyone else noticed a rise in TV adverts for funerals?

I'm hoping that I'm only noticing that because I am at home and that they are usually on in the day time but I'm not usually watching telly in the day. Along with ads for stair lifts, will writing, Wiltshire Farm Foods, incontinence knickers and releasing equity from your house.

 

[killer b]

Expect cruise lines have cut back a bit on the budget then.

They should diversify. Paint the fuckers black and start doing burials-at-sea.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yes, it really pisses me off. One of my friends described me as 'such a brave soul' one day after I'd told her my chronic pain was particularly bad and it just made me cross. She didn't do it again though.

I had that too, recently. Got called brave because of carrying on doing community work after my recent "you might die" diagnosis. Of course I'm going to carry on. What's the alternative, to go lie in bed, weeping and lamenting? If I'm going to go, I'll go helping my community. I'll go out fighting, like Ann did.

 

[Pickman's model]

I had that too, recently. Got called brave because of carrying on doing community work after my recent "you might die" diagnosis. Of course I'm going to carry on. What's the alternative, to go lie in bed, weeping and lamenting? If I'm going to go, I'll go helping my community. I'll go out fighting, like Ann did.

 

[JimW]

They should diversify. Paint the fuckers black and start doing burials-at-sea.

Given the infection rates they could team up with Dignitas for a one-stop service.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

So - do we reckon BoZo is doing ok and they’ve just got him taking up an ICU bed presumptively because he’s PM OR are they lying and he’s in a bad way?

 

[Sprocket.]

They should diversify. Paint the fuckers black and start doing burials-at-sea.

I always fancied a budget Viking style send off to Valhalla. I can provide my own axe to keep costs down as well!

 

[danny la rouge]

So - do we reckon BoZo is doing ok and they’ve just got him taking up an ICU bed presumptively because he’s PM OR are they lying and he’s in a bad way?

If he’s in ICU and there’s no change, then he’s not great.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

So - do we reckon BoZo is doing ok and they’ve just got him taking up an ICU bed presumptively because he’s PM OR are they lying and he’s in a bad way?

50-50, innit.