Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19

[Sprocket.]

If he survives this will he become the new ‘Boris the Bullet Dodger’?
Especially as the Mail uses the term “‘he will pull through”

 

[RedRedRose]

There's not even anything on Twitter so either your source is deep within his inner circle or it's a bag o'shite fake news.

Its fake news being circulated on Chinese social media.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Its fake news being circulated on Chinese social media.

And English, apparently.

 

[equationgirl]

It's been clearly stated, by the BBC at least, that there will be no further updates on his condition until later today (Wednesday). So whatever has been seen on social media is unlikely to be factually correct.

 

[Sprocket.]

The news today
Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Raab, power vacuum, Johnson, Johnson, 700+ dead, Johnson, Trump, Johnson, NHS staff.
Just a forecast.

 

[bimble]

I keep checking to see if there's any update on his 'personal' twitter but the most recent post is still the one from two days ago that says i've just popped into hospital for some routine tests..

 

[ska invita]

Special Report: Johnson listened to his scientists about coronavirus - but they were slow to sound the alarm

It was early spring when British scientists laid out the bald truth to their government. It was "highly likely," they said, that there was now "sustained transmission" of COVID-19 in the United Kingdom.

www.reuters.com

Lots of details in that, but not without contradictions in narrative either, such as "The catalyst for a policy reversal came on March 16 with the publication of a report by Neil Ferguson’s Imperial College team. .....[yet].........Imperial’s prediction of over half a million deaths was no different from the report by the government’s own pandemic modelling committee two weeks earlier." There are other headscratching examples in it that suggest things unknown and unsaid.

There's a lot of murk in this episode, a public enquiry wouldn't unpick it either.

 

[ska invita]

The news today
Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Raab, power vacuum, Johnson, Johnson, 700+ dead, Johnson, Trump, Johnson, NHS staff.
Just a forecast.

missing 'strong and stable'

 

[Mr.Bishie]

And throw in some “bulldog spirit” ftw!

 

[Sprocket.]

And throw in some “bulldog spirit” ftw!

Throw in a pit bull that’s been tormented with a Boris Johnson doll!

 

[TopCat]

An intensive care consultant just said in an interview with Adam Boulton, on Sky, that surviving ICU patients often suffer very long term psychological cognitive and physical problems which need to be dealt with.

This scares the fuck out of me.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

So what is the official line today for Johnnsons condition?

ICU
On oxygen
In good spirits
No ventilation
Nothing similar to ventilation
No pneumonia


Is that right?

I saw on twitter that "his temperature has dropped" is that official of just rumours?

 

[platinumsage]

He's "doing just fine" according to Raab this morning

 

[Raheem]

I saw on twitter that "his temperature has dropped"

Did it say how much by?

 

[mauvais]

Did it say how much by?

If there was ever a time for a '38 Degrees' petition...

 

[TopCat]

I would be surprised if they blatantly lied over ventilator use for Boris. It would leak out.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I would be surprised if they blatantly lied over ventilator use for Boris. It would leak out.

That's what you get for having Dyson build them.

 

[TopCat]

My nurse GF is sick today.

 

[Raheem]

The news today
Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Johnson, Raab, power vacuum, Johnson, Johnson, 700+ dead, Johnson, Trump, Johnson, NHS staff.
Just a forecast.

... egg, Johnson, Johnson and Spam.

 

[Yossarian]

Did it say how much by?

Probably not as far as zero, though if he did die, it would be typical of this government to spend at least a day using misleading euphemisms before admitting it.

"His temperature has dropped significantly, he's no longer in the intensive care unit, there is no further risk of pneumonia, and he does not require oxygen."

 

[SpookyFrank]

An intensive care consultant just said in an interview with Adam Boulton, on Sky, that surviving ICU patients often suffer very long term psychological cognitive and physical problems which need to be dealt with.

They can pump oxygen into you but, short of one of those membrane oxygenation thingies which effectively does the gas exchange for you, you're still relying on what function your lungs still have to get that oxygen into your blood stream. It's possible that in some cases that's enough oxygen to keep the body alive long enough to finish off the virus and dial back any autoimmune responses but not enough to prevent long-term tissue damage. The brain is particularly vulnerable to a shortage of oxygen. If there's a delay in getting a patient onto ventilation, which there will be in many cases because patients not in hospitals aren't being monitored at all, then that's another point at which there could be brain damage due to hypoxia.

The psychology of lying there stuffed full of tubes, cut off from loved ones, basically waiting to die is better not thought of too often. It is to be hoped that there's not too much awareness going on by that point.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Probably not as far as zero, though if he did die, it would be typical of this government to spend at least a day using misleading euphemisms before admitting it.

"His temperature has dropped significantly, he's no longer in the intensive care unit, there is no further risk of pneumonia, and he does not require oxygen."

'His condition is stable.'

 

[Pickman's model]

Probably not as far as zero, though if he did die, it would be typical of this government to spend at least a day using misleading euphemisms before admitting it.

"His temperature has dropped significantly, he's no longer in the intensive care unit, there is no further risk of pneumonia, and he does not require oxygen."

 

[SpookyFrank]

I keep checking to see if there's any update on his 'personal' twitter but the most recent post is still the one from two days ago that says i've just popped into hospital for some routine tests..

This would have come as a surprise to anyone who was actually due to have routine tests and has seen them postponed indefinitely.

 

[Kaka Tim]

cheery selfies from hospital bed noticible by there absence. How long till they announce hes on a ventilator? Def think the lack of detail and evasiveness is due to power struggles in government. Real likelyhood that Johnson wont be coming back for months or ever.
Life and death decisions with massive implications have to taken and we seem to have a bunch headless chickens carrying out a backstabbing and blamedodging operation.

 

[Aladdin]

It's a stupid position for a number of reasons isn't it? For one it's clearly a lie as he can't be so sure. It's also stupid as it'll look bad if he does die. It's also missing a chance to press home the danger of the virus. And yeah, I hate that 'fighter' nonsense with illnesses too, it comes out lots with cancer as well.

Yep. Totally agree. As if being ill means you're a weakling. I hate that attitude. I worked with someone who knew I was unwell. She used to turn to me every fucking day and say "your health is your wealth". My brain couldn't fucking compute that and it did get to the stage where I eventually turned on her and told her to fuck off. She was mortally wounded as I pointed out to her that my health was none of her fucking business and considering as I was earning a shitload more than her that her daily throw away shit comment was deeply flawed.

As for Raab? He's a dope.

 

[keybored]

Its fake news being circulated on Chinese social media.

We've even outsourced the "Convenient Scapegoat" industry to them.

 

[Teaboy]

What i don't under stand is he is a fighter and soon to be Dad for the 6th time

so why did he not move Carrie out of number 11

Can I just say that I got censored on this thread for stating something about Johnson which is public record, he himself put it on record. Also there are numerous eye witness reports which repeat Johnson's behaviour in this regard.

Yet all across this thread we have mention of his offspring, of whom there are specific injunctions in place to protect. If we're going to be consistent discussing his kids really is a no no from a legal stand point.

 

[Aladdin]

Maybe he doesn't believe in illness but illness believes in him

Oh yeah.
Reminds of this author who came to lecture us when I was in college. He was selling his book. Anyway he decided to tell us that all disease was the result of our own
dis-ease.
I stood up in front of the 200 or so students and called him out. He decided to continue by saying heart dis-ease was a result of a deep emotional wound. I continued taking him on and asked him how come heart disease was so low in Japan? Could it have something to do with diet maybe? In the end he got personal and said "you're very defensive. Has someone in your family a heart problem?"
At that stage I really lost the plot and fucked him out of it for his misinformation. Got a clap from the rest of the students and nobody bought his book.

 

[SpookyFrank]

.